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- $\begingroup$ I can't get this answer.. (Sorry if I'm asking the same, but would be good to clarify this point). It says you can modify those programs by changing their syntax to get an extensional equivalent, but how to check those are extensional equivalent in the first place? You cannot use a program to compare if those programs functions in general have both that property, so when you say "modify it" I think it's possible because are simple examples, (would you add "modify it carefully"? or use a "good IDE for it"?..) I think once is modified you can't check in general so, perhaps Rice holds. $\endgroup$Hernan_eche– Hernan_eche2014-06-16 18:22:32 +00:00Commented Jun 16, 2014 at 18:22
- 2$\begingroup$ In general you check that two particular programs are extensionally equal by proving that this is the case. Do you object to the fact that $n + m = m + n$ for all integers, even though a computer cannot "check" this equality for all values? Hopefully not. There is a difference between writing a program that computes a boolean value, and proving that a certain statement has a certain truth value. There are things we can prove but cannnot compute (such as the fact that two particular programs are extensionally equal, or that addition is commutative). $\endgroup$Andrej Bauer– Andrej Bauer2014-06-17 07:48:00 +00:00Commented Jun 17, 2014 at 7:48
- 1$\begingroup$ Also, you are commiting a weird leap of reasoning in your reasoning: since extensional equality is not decidable, Rice's theorem might be false. How so? And just because extensional equality is undecidable, that does not mean there aren't any instances of it which we can decide. The ones I mentioned -- we can decide those. $\endgroup$Andrej Bauer– Andrej Bauer2014-06-17 07:50:45 +00:00Commented Jun 17, 2014 at 7:50
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