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WHA? You mean you don't want to consider my majoritarian appropriation and fantastical cartooning of your culture and experience for your award? WHY THAT'S DISCRIMINATION, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
I started a bingo card for the comments, but, frankly, I have better things to do.
censorship!
oppression via forced coming out! Complete with bonus racist comment: This doesn’t bother me one whit, but what about if someone were in the armed forces? Or lived in a dangerous place for gay people, somewhere like Jamaica?
the usual fetishization of how ~dangerous~ and ~*edgy*~ it is to be queer!
I don't seecolor gender, I just see ~love~: At the same time, as a writer and a human being, I don't enjoy being dismissed because of the gender of the person with whom I've chosen to spend my life. When I suggested earlier founding a contest for GLBTQ literature that doesn't discriminate against the gender or lifestyle of the author.
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torachan has a better roundup/discussion here.
I started a bingo card for the comments, but, frankly, I have better things to do.
censorship!
oppression via forced coming out! Complete with bonus racist comment: This doesn’t bother me one whit, but what about if someone were in the armed forces? Or lived in a dangerous place for gay people, somewhere like Jamaica?
the usual fetishization of how ~dangerous~ and ~*edgy*~ it is to be queer!
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torachan has a better roundup/discussion here.
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REEXAMINE THE WORD ALLY, PEOPLE. YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.
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WHY DON'T PEOPLE *THINK*? That would be nice. DDD:
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I also like the underlying opinion that their fiction is obviously better than fiction by GLBTQ authors and Lambda is just jealous. Or something.
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GAH.
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Their shitty original slash is bad and they should fucking feel bad. I'm disappointed that there isn't more of a flame war going on, almost, because now I have to stew because their stupidity hasn't been smacked down to my satisfaction. Which means that I should probably get off the computer and read to keep from stewing for more than a few minutes.
THEY CAN FUCK OFF AND DIE. SERIOUSLY. But what do I know, I'm just a literary fiction snob. *stews and stews*
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I'm stewing, too. While trying to write a scene that I *wish* were litficcy but which in my heart of hearts I know is just regular slashy romance. WAH.
I'M SORRY I SHOWED THIS TO YOU.
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You are the litfic queen, though! You are thoughtful and wise in your writing, and a little bit of romance never hurt anyone. ♥
Don't apologize! You didn't force me to click the link, after all. And now I'm just even more determined to support/write/buy/support queer-written literary fiction. (Speaking of which, have you heard about Michael Cunningham's new project? It sounds like a swoony mess, but I want to read it so badly!)
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Disclaimer: I'm in the camp that thinks it's reasonable for LLF to set any terms they want for their award, but it's poor policy to change the terms mid-year after accepting submissions, and I'm not sure it helps promote GLBTQ acceptance to say "our authors weren't writing better stories than straight authors, so we're excluding the straight authors."
That said, I'm also pretty sure it's not ruining any straight author's career to be excluded from these awards (nor do I believe it'd destroy any GLBTQ author's career for being excluded--like, for those authors who only produce ebooks). I don't think straight people have any "right" to be included, just because they've been allowed in the past.
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I can't speak for RUWF, but what *I've* been laughing at is the assertion by, and fervent belief of, the tantrum-throwers that their work was the problem prompting the LLF to change the rules, when the straight authors who have won have been uniformly working from a very particular literary-fictional place that bears very, very little resemblance to
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If the straight authors who had won had similar styles, that weren't shared by GLBTQ authors, that seems like a sensible reason to shift the focus of the awards back to their original intent. I'm not sure this was the best way to do that, but I don't think it was the worst, either.
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Disclaimer: I'm in the camp that thinks it's reasonable for LLF to set any terms they want for their award, but it's poor policy to change the terms mid-year after accepting submissions...
They didn't change the terms mid-year after accepting submissions.
Submissions won't be accepted until October 1.
That's this Thursday.
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"This doesn't bother me one whit, but what about if someone were in the armed forces? Or lived in a dangerous place for gay people, somewhere like Jamaica?"
AHAHAHAH YES. Jamaica = DANGEROUS FOR GAYS. What a wonderfully incisive comment, not essentializing at all!
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BAH I SAY.
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I'm betting it's basically 'somewhere out by the beach, under a coconut tree is an erotica writing author(ess) who could totally be writing the hot sexors between someone described like Ronon Dex and someone described like Tyr Anasazi! What about them LLA?!! You are oppressing the hypothetical brown buttbonking!!'
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:(
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I'm still not over "OR THEY COULD BE IN JAMAICA", because ... wow. Just ... wow.
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Um. Yes, under my *costume* of a woman, I am a secret bisexual. *flaps cape*
WTF?
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So, sorry, for commenting with only the first few comments read this morning...
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And now i'm really shutting up (and would like to delete, but I can show my commenting before reading all the relevant posts-ass in public with the best of them :)
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<333
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I read only the responses which is where my first statement came from. But when I read tyhe actual statement. It was brilliant!!!! And there's nothing anyone can complain about.
I mean, seriously: you're worried about being outed as bisexual after you put your name on a book with queer characters? It does not compute! (The one OP who's all about how she's gonna lose her job bladibla...)
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I'm impressed and glad that you (a) looked it up, (b) changed your mind, (c) called out yourself for the mouth-shooting-off stuff, and (d) left the mistakes up. Bravo! Rarely do I go from "grrr Imma flame this person" to "wow, I am quite impressed" in the space of reading three consecutive comments. :)
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I wish the rage-provoking would pause. Just for a day or so, you know?
*mwah*
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The issue supposedly is that people can't be out because they might be killed...but they have to submit their work for consideration because it's a bump in sales figures?
Maybe it's just me, but if I was in a situation where being outed could get me killed, I wouldn't do anything that might get me outed--like writing GLBT fiction and submitting it for an award.
But that's just me.
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I don't mean to downplay the seriousness of coming out, but really, if writing fiction about LGBT characters and submitting it for a high-profile LGBT award is your idea of staying closeted, dude, you're doing it WRONG. And this isn't even touching the ugly undercurrent of homophobia in the idea that a writer of LGBT fiction might flip out at the idea of being thought gay herself.
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What? What? WHAT?
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