Timeline for Two Wrong Posts Don't Make A Right
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| Jun 2, 2012 at 4:52 | comment | added | zzzzBov | @crucifiedsoul, a police officer can only deal with one speeder at a time, assuming he can find them. A moderator can only deal with one bad post at a time, assuming he can find them. | |
| Jun 1, 2012 at 15:14 | comment | added | user | This is wrong analogy. For a police officer, it's impossible to chase several over speeder at same time. But that doesn't apply here. Closing one unconstructive question doesn't limit your ability to close other unconstructive questions. | |
| May 29, 2012 at 14:27 | comment | added | ChrisF Mod | @JohnMcG - I'm sorry that this came over as a rant. It wasn't intended as such, but as a reminder to people that they have the tools available to make and keep this site a useful resource. | |
| May 29, 2012 at 14:20 | comment | added | JohnMcG | @Shog9 I don't buy that. Per Jerry's answer below, I think the moderators should hold themselves to higher standards than the rest of us. Posting a question that is essentially a rant, that puts posts outside the standards on a parallel with breaking the law, is IMO falling short of that. If holding up these strict standards is such a terrible burden that the moderators need to write ranty posts like this as a release, perhaps that's a sign the standards are too strict. Yes, he can be "forgiven." The ranty question doesn't make him a bad person. But nor does it make a good model. | |
| May 24, 2012 at 20:19 | answer | added | Jerry Coffin | timeline score: 10 | |
| May 24, 2012 at 17:40 | comment | added | Shog9 StaffMod | It's not a question, @Jerry. ChrisF is one of the guys handling flags, and therefore catches a lot of the flack that, IMHO, ought really to be directed at the folks who flagged without bothering to explain in comments what the problem was with the post they're flagging. He ends up picking up a lot of slack for other people. He's good at it. But it gets frustrating, and IMHO we can forgive him if that comes through a bit in this. That doesn't mean you can't respond, if you've a better way of putting it or disagreement or whatever. If Chris wanted to be an ass, he'd have locked the post. | |
| May 24, 2012 at 17:18 | comment | added | Jerry Coffin | @Shog9: I said nothing of the sort. I said that the "question" doesn't seem to contain a question. I'll also go on record as saying that it seems to me that despite the "discussion" tag, the way it's written specifically discourages discussion. | |
| May 24, 2012 at 17:04 | comment | added | Zelda | There's a dozen comments here and a big blank answer box for everyone, of course there's room for discussion. | |
| May 24, 2012 at 17:04 | comment | added | Shog9 StaffMod | Donno about you, @Jerry, but I see a great big empty "Your Answer" box down there. If you disagree with this, write something about it. Saying this discussion sucks because no one's discussing it doesn't really improve things... | |
| May 24, 2012 at 16:52 | comment | added | Jerry Coffin | @Shog9: There seems to be none of that here either though -- there's no room left for discussion at all. Rather, it's written as little less than orders from "on high" to the lowly, law-breaking heathens. | |
| May 24, 2012 at 16:48 | comment | added | Shog9 StaffMod | @Jerry: there is something of a tradition of posting opinion pieces on Meta, tagged [discussion], to allow others to disagree / suggest alternatives / raise concerns in the answers. Yes, it's the "forum-style" that's discouraged everywhere else, but the meta sites were created in part to bring forum discussions in-network, and the discussion tag is used to signal that. | |
| May 24, 2012 at 16:40 | comment | added | Jerry Coffin | Voting to close as "not a real question". In fact, there seems to be no attempt at asking any sort of question here at all -- instead it's essentially a blog post attempting to justify a moderating policy that (apparently) hasn't been popular. If he's not willing to write it as an actual blog post, then he should at least make an attempt at paying lip-service to the rules and writing it as a question with a self-answer. | |
| May 7, 2012 at 17:16 | comment | added | Caleb | @AndresF. My point is that the original analogy is quite helpful if you take from it that which was intended. I don't think any reasonable person, and certainly not ChrisF, would equate bad posts with law breaking. That's not what's being compared, so the point about rhetoric is baseless. | |
| May 7, 2012 at 17:05 | comment | added | Andres F. | @Caleb Sure, I get the gist of it. I was just supporting JohnMcG's opinion that the rhetoric is a bit too much (that is, the law-breaking analogy is unhelpful, and may drive us to an unhelpful mindset as well!) | |
| May 7, 2012 at 2:48 | comment | added | Caleb | @AndresF. The comparison isn't between writing a question and breaking the law, it's between an author complaining about one question being flagged while others aren't and a driver complaining about being pulled over when others get away. If you prefer a different metaphor, consider a child complaining about being disciplined when other children who were also behaving badly escape. | |
| May 1, 2012 at 20:20 | comment | added | Andres F. | @YannisRizos I have to agree with John about the rhetoric, though. The OP directly compares asking a question which doesn't follow this site's guidelines with breaking the law and being pulled over by the police (using those exact words, btw). | |
| May 1, 2012 at 14:40 | comment | added | yannis Mod | @JohnMcG "Two wrongs do not make one right" is a fairly common saying in English, could we please dial back the paranoia a bit? | |
| May 1, 2012 at 14:21 | comment | added | JohnMcG | Can we dial back the rhetoric a bit? A sub-optimal question is not a crime. It may need to be closed or cleaned up, but it is not a "wrong." | |
| May 1, 2012 at 14:13 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackProgrammer/status/197327890881327106 | ||
| May 1, 2012 at 13:21 | comment | added | maple_shaft Mod | @ChrisF Are we dupe-posting now? ;-) | |
| May 1, 2012 at 12:35 | comment | added | gnat | broken-windows - Existing inappropriate questions used to justify posting of new inappropriate questions "why can't I ask X when Y exists"... | |
| May 1, 2012 at 12:05 | history | asked | ChrisFMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |