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    I think a lot of this could be improved by allowing flaggers to add post notices to answers and then having the resulting answers that don't get fixed tossed in to the deletion queue. Since normal users (10k+) can actually delete things in the queue, many of these flags can be handled by the community through a sane workflow rather than having them be handled by mods. Not to mention it would give people a chance to improve their answers with clear guidance that there's something wrong beyond DVs. Commented Mar 20, 2014 at 2:55
  • Communities flags are immensely helpful! I have no idea what you're talking about there. Commented Mar 20, 2014 at 3:06
  • @jmac All of this can be done by anyone (at least anyone who can comment, i.e. with 50 rep). What does the 10k queue add? Commented Mar 20, 2014 at 3:08
  • @Seth Example? I usually decline Community's flags. Granted, that's because most of the ones I see are “closure without comment” flags on beta sites, the other ones are rare. But I rarely find the other ones useful either. Commented Mar 20, 2014 at 3:09
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    @Gilles, I don't like the 10k queue for all the reasons Shog mentioned. It allows us to point out that there is poor content, but doesn't actually allow a bulk of the community to do anything about it. I want to allow normal users to take action on answers as they do on questions, since that allows the community to moderate content. I'm not disagreeing, just think it can be further improved to minimize moderator load and maximize the ability of the community to make those value-judgments on what content is right for their community. Commented Mar 20, 2014 at 3:42
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    "Pile-on flags are useless" - Yep, pretty much. When there's 10 people flagging NAA and 10 people disputing the flag, I still have to make a very tough call... It took me actually experiencing this firsthand to really understand it... Commented Mar 20, 2014 at 3:58
  • @jmac I, too, want normal users to be able to take action on answers, and that's precisely why I want to replace the 10k queue with a delete review queue (generalizing the current VLQ queue a bit). I don't see the point of post notices: a comment that explains the specific problem with the post is much more helpful. Commented Mar 20, 2014 at 10:55
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    @Gilles, the comment thing has been discussed ad nauseum in the past and simply is never going to be enforced as mandatory. Post notices are good for when someone says, "You should do this" but doesn't bother explaining why or how that is the proper answer. So we can tack on a nice notice that says: "We're looking for long answers that provide some explanation and context. Don't just give a one-line answer: please explain why you're recommending it as a solution. Answers that don't explain anything will be deleted. See Good Subjective, Bad Subjective for more information." Commented Mar 20, 2014 at 15:26
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    This not only signals to the user what is wrong with their post (and that it may be removed if they don't do something about it), but it also signals to everyone that reads the post notice that we have quality standards for content that doesn't include, "This is my opinion" one-liners that add nothing to our status as a resource. Commented Mar 20, 2014 at 15:27