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Regarding Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog's answer

I'm not in favour of increasing the maximum upload size, unless some more automatic work can also go on behind the scenes.
I do see the benefit especially for a new user to be able to send something they just took on their phone - but they will be totally unaware of the extra load that causes for anyone viewing the page. As far as they can see it is the same size as everybody else's photos.

I can think of no instance when the inlined image needs to be full quality - apart from anything else it's only ever displayed at 650px on the main page.

If people less data-savvy post up four or five 5MB images of their garage door for such as diy.se, then everybody visiting it will get a huge data hit. It's rare on non-computer-tech sites like that for anyone to back-edit & inline the imgur m or l instead of the full image.

I'd very much like a future consideration for automatic inlining of a resized, lower-quality 650px wide image automatically linked on click-through to the original - in effect automatically inlining the l. This could be done silently as the post is saved, as currently happens with link renumbering, to save confusing the less-savvy user.
I spend a fair amount of my time doing this manually.

Inlining an l or m takes several steps -
Renumber the 2nd reference
Copy paste the original link
Renumber one reference in that link.
Add an 'l' to the other.

…that's a lot of faff to make the page look almost no different yet save several MB of page load.

It makes sense to keep the original, for times when detailed examination is required, but little sense to make everyone load an image larger than they're actually seeing & before they even know whether or not they're interested in the image.

Not everybody is on gigabit.

An additional thought on this 'automation'.

When a new user uploads an image it will not automatically inline for them. A more experienced user must do this - which on many sites gets done quite quickly; good.

However, the code they get when the new user uploads is only partial compared to an established user.

Then what happens is the established user just plonks an exclamation mark in front & hey presto, working image.

However - no-one ever thinks to add the necessary syntax to elable click through

…so perhaps some consideration needs to also be given to this issue. Perhaps setting the full syntax just without the exclamation mark -

though that makes this happen in the post

I don't have a solution for this, but it does perhaps need looking at.
I think this is going to be the same problem whether or not we incorporate the auto-resize, so I feel it needs considering at the same time.

One additional consideration for automatic resizing - the system needs to be aware of DPI settings.
Modern HiDPI/Retina systems often take screenshots at 144 DPI rather than the old 72 DPI standard. This means they arrive 'double size'.
Perhaps we also need a 'DPI halver' for these images.

Regarding Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog's answer

I'm not in favour of increasing the maximum upload size, unless some more automatic work can also go on behind the scenes.
I do see the benefit especially for a new user to be able to send something they just took on their phone - but they will be totally unaware of the extra load that causes for anyone viewing the page. As far as they can see it is the same size as everybody else's photos.

I can think of no instance when the inlined image needs to be full quality - apart from anything else it's only ever displayed at 650px on the main page.

If people less data-savvy post up four or five 5MB images of their garage door for such as diy.se, then everybody visiting it will get a huge data hit. It's rare on non-computer-tech sites like that for anyone to back-edit & inline the imgur m or l instead of the full image.

I'd very much like a future consideration for automatic inlining of a resized, lower-quality 650px wide image automatically linked on click-through to the original - in effect automatically inlining the l. This could be done silently as the post is saved, as currently happens with link renumbering, to save confusing the less-savvy user.
I spend a fair amount of my time doing this manually.

Inlining an l or m takes several steps -
Renumber the 2nd reference
Copy paste the original link
Renumber one reference in that link.
Add an 'l' to the other.

…that's a lot of faff to make the page look almost no different yet save several MB of page load.

It makes sense to keep the original, for times when detailed examination is required, but little sense to make everyone load an image larger than they're actually seeing & before they even know whether or not they're interested in the image.

Not everybody is on gigabit.

An additional thought on this 'automation'.

When a new user uploads an image it will not automatically inline for them. A more experienced user must do this - which on many sites gets done quite quickly; good.

However, the code they get when the new user uploads is only partial compared to an established user.

Then what happens is the established user just plonks an exclamation mark in front & hey presto, working image.

However - no-one ever thinks to add the necessary syntax to enable click through

…so perhaps some consideration needs to also be given to this issue. Perhaps setting the full syntax just without the exclamation mark -

though that makes this happen in the post

I don't have a solution for this, but it does perhaps need looking at.
I think this is going to be the same problem whether or not we incorporate the auto-resize, so I feel it needs considering at the same time.

One additional consideration for automatic resizing - the system needs to be aware of DPI settings.
Modern HiDPI/Retina systems often take screenshots at 144 DPI rather than the old 72 DPI standard. This means they arrive 'double size'.
Perhaps we also need a 'DPI halver' for these images.

Regarding Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog's answer

I'm not in favour of increasing the maximum upload size, unless some more automatic work can also go on behind the scenes.
I do see the benefit especially for a new user to be able to send something they just took on their phone - but they will be totally unaware of the extra load that causes for anyone viewing the page. As far as they can see it is the same size as everybody else's photos.

I can think of no instance when the inlined image needs to be full quality - apart from anything else it's only ever displayed at 650px on the main page.

If people less data-savvy post up four or five 5MB images of their garage door for such as diy.se, then everybody visiting it will get a huge data hit. It's rare on non-computer-tech sites like that for anyone to back-edit & inline the imgur m or l instead of the full image.

I'd very much like a future consideration for automatic inlining of a resized, lower-quality 650px wide image automatically linked on click-through to the original - in effect automatically inlining the l. This could be done silently as the post is saved, as currently happens with link renumbering, to save confusing the less-savvy user.
I spend a fair amount of my time doing this manually.

Inlining an l or m takes several steps -
Renumber the 2nd reference
Copy paste the original link
Renumber one reference in that link.
Add an 'l' to the other.

…that's a lot of faff to make the page look almost no different yet save several MB of page load.

It makes sense to keep the original, for times when detailed examination is required, but little sense to make everyone load an image larger than they're actually seeing & before they even know whether or not they're interested in the image.

Not everybody is on gigabit.

An additional thought on this 'automation'.

When a new user uploads an image it will not automatically inline for them. A more experienced user must do this - which on many sites gets done quite quickly; good.

However, the code they get when the new user uploads is only partial compared to an established user.

Then what happens is the established user just plonks an exclamation mark in front & hey presto, working image.

However - no-one ever thinks to add the necessary syntax to elable click through

…so perhaps some consideration needs to also be given to this issue. Perhaps setting the full syntax just without the exclamation mark -

though that makes this happen in the post

I don't have a solution for this, but it does perhaps need looking at.
I think this is going to be the same problem whether or not we incorporate the auto-resize, so I feel it needs considering at the same time.

Regarding Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog's answer

I'm not in favour of increasing the maximum upload size, unless some more automatic work can also go on behind the scenes.
I do see the benefit especially for a new user to be able to send something they just took on their phone - but they will be totally unaware of the extra load that causes for anyone viewing the page. As far as they can see it is the same size as everybody else's photos.

I can think of no instance when the inlined image needs to be full quality - apart from anything else it's only ever displayed at 650px on the main page.

If people less data-savvy post up four or five 5MB images of their garage door for such as diy.se, then everybody visiting it will get a huge data hit. It's rare on non-computer-tech sites like that for anyone to back-edit & inline the imgur m or l instead of the full image.

I'd very much like a future consideration for automatic inlining of a resized, lower-quality 650px wide image automatically linked on click-through to the original - in effect automatically inlining the l. This could be done silently as the post is saved, as currently happens with link renumbering, to save confusing the less-savvy user.
I spend a fair amount of my time doing this manually.

Inlining an l or m takes several steps -
Renumber the 2nd reference
Copy paste the original link
Renumber one reference in that link.
Add an 'l' to the other.

…that's a lot of faff to make the page look almost no different yet save several MB of page load.

It makes sense to keep the original, for times when detailed examination is required, but little sense to make everyone load an image larger than they're actually seeing & before they even know whether or not they're interested in the image.

Not everybody is on gigabit.

An additional thought on this 'automation'.

When a new user uploads an image it will not automatically inline for them. A more experienced user must do this - which on many sites gets done quite quickly; good.

However, the code they get when the new user uploads is only partial compared to an established user.

Then what happens is the established user just plonks an exclamation mark in front & hey presto, working image.

However - no-one ever thinks to add the necessary syntax to elable click through

…so perhaps some consideration needs to also be given to this issue. Perhaps setting the full syntax just without the exclamation mark -

though that makes this happen in the post

I don't have a solution for this, but it does perhaps need looking at.
I think this is going to be the same problem whether or not we incorporate the auto-resize, so I feel it needs considering at the same time.

One additional consideration for automatic resizing - the system needs to be aware of DPI settings.
Modern HiDPI/Retina systems often take screenshots at 144 DPI rather than the old 72 DPI standard. This means they arrive 'double size'.
Perhaps we also need a 'DPI halver' for these images.

Regarding Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog's answer

I'm not in favour of increasing the maximum upload size, unless some more automatic work can also go on behind the scenes.
I do see the benefit especially for a new user to be able to send something they just took on their phone - but they will be totally unaware of the extra load that causes for anyone viewing the page. As far as they can see it is the same size as everybody else's photos.

I can think of no instance when the inlined image needs to be full quality - apart from anything else it's only ever displayed at 650px on the main page.

If people less data-savvy post up four or five 5MB images of their garage door for such as diy.se, then everybody visiting it will get a huge data hit. It's rare on non-computer-tech sites like that for anyone to back-edit & inline the imgur m or l instead of the full image.

I'd very much like a future consideration for automatic inlining of a resized, lower-quality 650px wide image automatically linked on click-through to the original - in effect automatically inlining the l. This could be done silently as the post is saved, as currently happens with link renumbering, to save confusing the less-savvy user.
I spend a fair amount of my time doing this manually.

Inlining an l or m takes several steps -
Renumber the 2nd reference
Copy paste the original link
Renumber one reference in that link.
Add an 'l' to the other.

…that's a lot of faff to make the page look almost no different yet save several MB of page load.

It makes sense to keep the original, for times when detailed examination is required, but little sense to make everyone load an image larger than they're actually seeing & before they even know whether or not they're interested in the image.

Not everybody is on gigabit.

Regarding Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog's answer

I'm not in favour of increasing the maximum upload size, unless some more automatic work can also go on behind the scenes.
I do see the benefit especially for a new user to be able to send something they just took on their phone - but they will be totally unaware of the extra load that causes for anyone viewing the page. As far as they can see it is the same size as everybody else's photos.

I can think of no instance when the inlined image needs to be full quality - apart from anything else it's only ever displayed at 650px on the main page.

If people less data-savvy post up four or five 5MB images of their garage door for such as diy.se, then everybody visiting it will get a huge data hit. It's rare on non-computer-tech sites like that for anyone to back-edit & inline the imgur m or l instead of the full image.

I'd very much like a future consideration for automatic inlining of a resized, lower-quality 650px wide image automatically linked on click-through to the original - in effect automatically inlining the l. This could be done silently as the post is saved, as currently happens with link renumbering, to save confusing the less-savvy user.
I spend a fair amount of my time doing this manually.

Inlining an l or m takes several steps -
Renumber the 2nd reference
Copy paste the original link
Renumber one reference in that link.
Add an 'l' to the other.

…that's a lot of faff to make the page look almost no different yet save several MB of page load.

It makes sense to keep the original, for times when detailed examination is required, but little sense to make everyone load an image larger than they're actually seeing & before they even know whether or not they're interested in the image.

Not everybody is on gigabit.

An additional thought on this 'automation'.

When a new user uploads an image it will not automatically inline for them. A more experienced user must do this - which on many sites gets done quite quickly; good.

However, the code they get when the new user uploads is only partial compared to an established user.

Then what happens is the established user just plonks an exclamation mark in front & hey presto, working image.

However - no-one ever thinks to add the necessary syntax to elable click through

…so perhaps some consideration needs to also be given to this issue. Perhaps setting the full syntax just without the exclamation mark -

though that makes this happen in the post

I don't have a solution for this, but it does perhaps need looking at.
I think this is going to be the same problem whether or not we incorporate the auto-resize, so I feel it needs considering at the same time.