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    +1 for every point made, but mainly "So we should also reinvent OAuth? Sorry, we're still in the process of reinventing IRC" Commented Sep 11, 2010 at 21:31
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    "As soon as anything requires more than a browser, it's less usable for many people" I see, you just hate that its out of the browser. I would like to point to half of StackApps, where most are desktop applications. Your saying that because its out of the browser, making an API would be pointless. So then why does an SO API or StackApps even exist? Commented Sep 11, 2010 at 21:31
  • Also, my stabs at authentication were trying to figure out how to use OpenID for desktop applications. They were a bunch of random attempts, but I'm not a security expert. I was just trying to acknowledge the problem of non-browser based authentication, and providing possible solutions to the problem. Commented Sep 11, 2010 at 21:35
  • @TheLQ There are enough words in my answer, please don't try to put additional ones in my mouth. Commented Sep 11, 2010 at 21:36
  • @TheLQ - When did "less usable" become "pointless"? You're putting words in @balpha's mouth, and completely missing the point of the answer. The browser comes first (and again, "first" != "only"), just as it came first before the API with the SO/SE sites themselves...I don't find this logic hard to follow. Why make an API before the primary interface is even finished? An API made right now wouldn't even fully support what they want chat in the browser to be, so why push that unfinished API as the interface for all other mediums as well? Commented Sep 11, 2010 at 21:37
  • You must of misread #2, since that was nothing close to what I was talking about. You have your OpenID, and you have your global chat password. I have no idea where you got tying it to a specific OpenID on a specific site... And yes, your current username is your, well, username, and you global chat password is your password. How that is complicated escapes me Commented Sep 11, 2010 at 21:39
  • I'm going to leave authentication up to whoever writes the API. I think now its just about the idea instead of the how. Commented Sep 11, 2010 at 22:29