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I am interested in the effects of the discrete symmetry operation that reverses the time-orientation of a manifold, i.e., flipping past by future. To give some context, I'm thinking about classical field theories in curved spacetimes. Let me start by stating the things I know:

Time-reversed worldlines

A worldline $z^\alpha(\tau)$ is a map that takes a real number (the proper time $\tau$) and returns a spacetime point in the manifold $\mathcal{M}$

$$ \tag{1} z: \mathbb{R}\rightarrow \mathcal{M} $$

The full path that $z$ "draws" on the manifold is invariant under time reversal, but the direction in which we traverse it changes. I'll use a bar to denote "time-reversed" quantities, then

$$ \tag{2} \bar{z}^\alpha (\tau)=z^\alpha(-\tau) $$

Similarly, the 4-velocity satisfies

\begin{equation} \begin{aligned} \bar{u}^\alpha (\tau)\equiv& \frac{d\bar{z}(\tau)}{d\tau}\\ =&-u^\alpha(-\tau) \end{aligned} \end{equation}

Time-reversed Green functions

Consider a Green function satisfying some simply equation

$$ \tag{4} D_x G(x,y)=\delta(x,y)$$

where $D_x$ is some nice differential operator like $\nabla_\mu \nabla^\mu$ or such. Let's focus on the retarded and advanced solutions, which satisfy

  • $G_{\text{ret}}(x,y)=0$ when $y$ is not in the past of $x$.
  • $G_{\text{ret}}(x,y)=G_{\text{adv}}(y,x)$.

The retarded and advanced solutions clearly depend on the time-orientation of the manifold, since they distinguish past and future. It follows from their causality that they are time-reversed of each other

$$ \tag{5} \bar{G}_{\text{ret}}(x,y)=G_{\text{adv}}(x,y) $$

Confusion about Green functions evaluated on worldlines

Consider now a retarded Green function evaluated along a wordline $G_{\text{ret}}\big[z(\tau_1),z(\tau_2)\big]$. I would think that time-reversing the worldlines would be equivalent to time-reversing the Green function itself

$$ \tag{6} G_\text{ret}\big[z(-\tau_1),z(-\tau_2)\big]\stackrel{?}{=}G_\text{adv}\big[z(\tau_1),z(\tau_2)\big]$$

but I don't think that is true, at least not in general spacetimes that are not homogeneous.

I believe it would be true only if we flip time orientation specifically along the mid point $\tau_0=\frac{\tau_1+\tau_2}{2}$ between $\tau_1$ and $\tau_2$

$$\tag{7} G_\text{ret}\big[z(\tau_0+\Delta \tau),z(\tau_0-\Delta \tau)\big]=G_\text{adv}\big[z(\tau_0-\Delta \tau),z(\tau_0 +\Delta \tau)\big]$$

which essentially corresponds to flipping the two arguments, just as in the previous section.

Deeper confusion about time-reversed higher $n$-point functions

It is common in perturbation theory to find higher-order $n$-point functions that are sourced by nonlinearities, such as

$$ \tag{8} D_x J(x,y,z)=G(x,y)G(x,z)$$

which can admits retarded and advanced solutions

$$ \tag{9} J_{\text{ret/adv}}(x,y,z)=\int dV' G_{\text{ret/adv}}(x,x')G_{\text{ret/adv}}(x',y)G_{\text{ret/adv}}(x',z)$$

In this case, I am not even sure a property such as $G_{\text{ret}}(x,y)=G_{\text{adv}}(y,x)$ exists...

It is clear that flipping time orientation and exchanging arguments produce the same result for 2-point functions. The question is, how does the relation between these two operations generalize to higher order n-point functions?

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I assume that your functions $G$ are the standard advanced and retarded fundamental solutions I henceforth indicate by $G_\pm$.

Yours is not the right way to think of time reversal in a generic (globally hyperbolic and time oriented) spacetime. A time reversal like operation must be everywhere defined and not just defined in relation to a given geodesics or family of geodesics. This approach produces inconclusive results, from a general perspective, strictly depending on the concrete spacetime one is handling.

What you need is a (bijective) isometry $f: M \to M$ such that $df: T_p M \to T_{f(p)}M$ “flips”the time orientation of the light cone at every $f(p)$. In other cords $df_p V^+_p= V_{f(p)}^-$. I.e, it has the reversed orientation with respect to the one of the spacetime. In this framework it turns out that $$G_\pm(f(x),f(y)) = G_\mp(x,y).$$

A typical situation is the one of a static spacetime. That is a globally hyperbolic spacetime with a complete timelike Killing vector normal to a spacelike Cauchy surface $S$. With these hypotheses $M$ is diffeomorphic to $\mathbb{R} \times S$ and the metrics splits accordingly and it does not depend on the parameter $t$ of the Killing curves which varies on $\mathbb{R}$. Here, we assumed that the zero of the parameter is fixed at the Cauchy surface.

The reflection operation with respect to $S$ of the Killing parameter along integral curves $$M\ni (t,p) \mapsto (-t,p)\in M$$ is an example of such $f$.

The property you suppose $$G_\pm(x,y) =G_\mp(y,x)$$ is in fact valid in every globally hyperbolic spacetime for a normally hyperbolic operator defined there on like the Klein-Gordon one.

Your passage to n-order functions is not very clear to me: two point functions as before are not of quantum nature, they are completely defined by the differential equation without quantum interpretation. Instead $n$ point functions, in the standard terminology, need a quantum state to be defined. Any symmetry property of these functions is a symmetry of the state. Without information on the latter nothing can be said.

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  • $\begingroup$ Something seems off. If you’re requiring $df$ map $T_pM$ into itself for each $p$, then it means $f$ is the identity map. Unless that’s a typo and you simply mean that for each $p$, $df$ maps the positive timecone in $T_pM$ to the negative one in $T_{f(p)}M$, i.e a time-orientation reversing (bijective) isometry? $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 25 at 7:30
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, thank you for pointing out the typo. I am correcting. I suppose bijectivity in the definition of isometry. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 25 at 7:49
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for the answer! I am not working on quantum mechanics. This is simply applied to solving a classical field theory perturbatively. For example, given field equations $\Box\phi+V'(\phi)=\rho$ one can solve perturbatively in powers of the density $\rho$ such that the first order solution is determined by a two point function, the second order solution by a three point function, and so on. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 25 at 17:17
  • $\begingroup$ My questions arose because I was confused with regards to what constitutes the "time symmetric" piece of the field $\phi$. $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 25 at 17:20
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Time‑orientation reversal as a pull‑back

  • If $t:M\to\mathbb R$ is a (globally defined) Cauchy temporal function,

    $$ \theta:(t,\mathbf x)\;\longmapsto\;(-t,\mathbf x) $$

    reverses the causal relation: $y\in J^{+}(x)\iff\theta y\in J^{-}(\theta x)$.

  • For a classical field $\Phi$ the time‑reversed field is the pull‑back

    $$ \bar\Phi \;=\;\theta^{\!*}\Phi,\qquad (\bar\Phi)(x) := \Phi\!\bigl(\theta x\bigr). $$

Any normally‑hyperbolic operator $P$ (wave, Klein–Gordon, Maxwell, …) commutes with θ because $g$ and the Levi‑Civita connection are θ‑invariant. Consequently the advanced and retarded Green operators $G_{A/R}$ satisfy the fundamental identity

$$ \boxed{ \;G_{R}(x,y)\;=\;G_{A}\bigl(\theta x,\theta y\bigr)\; } \tag{1} $$

Eq. (1) is just the kernel form of $\theta^{\!*}\,G_{R}\,(\theta^{\!*})^{-1}=G_{A}$.

Because $\theta$ exchanges past and future, swapping its two arguments also turns a retarded kernel into an advanced one:

$$ G_{R}(x,y)=G_{A}(y,x).\tag{2} $$

(Many authors quote (2) as definition; (1) shows it is a special case of the pull‑back statement.)


Why world‑line re‑parameterisation is not enough

Given a world‑line $z:\mathbb R\to M$, the map $\bar z(\tau)=z(-\tau)$ merely reverses the parameter; it is not the same as acting with θ unless

$$ z\bigl(\tau\bigr)=\theta z\!\bigl(2\tau_{0}-\tau\bigr) $$

for some “mid‑time’’ $\tau_{0}$. Only in that (time‑symmetric) case does evaluation of (2) on the curve give

$$ \boxed{ G_{R}\Bigl[z(\tau_{0}{+}\Delta),z(\tau_{0}{-}\Delta)\Bigr] \;=\; G_{A}\Bigl[z(\tau_{0}{-}\Delta),z(\tau_{0}{+}\Delta)\Bigr]. }\tag{3} $$

For a generic curved trajectory there is no such τ₀, hence simply writing $\tau\mapsto -\tau$ does not convert a retarded kernel into an advanced one.


Retarded vs advanced $n$-point kernels

Let $\mathcal G_{R/A}$ denote the operators (not their integral kernels); for test functions $f_i$,

$$ R^{(n)}(f_1,\dots,f_n) \;=\; (-1)^{n-1}\sum_{\pi\in S_{n-1}} \mathcal G_{R}\,f_{\pi(1)} \; \cdots\; \mathcal G_{R}\,f_{\pi(n-1)}\,f_n, $$

with support restricted to the common causal past of the last argument (Epstein–Glaser retarded products). Advanced products $A^{(n)}$ are defined analogously but with past ↔ future. The pull‑back identity (1) extends multiplicatively because θ leaves the volume form invariant. One obtains the all‑orders rule

$$ \boxed{ \theta^{\!*}\,R^{(n)}(x_1,\dots,x_n) \;=\; A^{(n)}\bigl(\theta x_1,\dots,\theta x_n\bigr). } \tag{4} $$

Hence retarded and advanced $n$-point objects are interchanged by θ; no single permutation of the $x_i$ can do this once $n>2$ because causal support conditions couple all points to each other.

Concrete example:

$$ J_{R}(x,y,z)\;=\;\int\!dV_{x'}\,G_{R}(x,x')G_{R}(x',y)G_{R}(x',z). $$

Apply θ everywhere and use (1):

$$ \theta^{\!*}J_{R}(x,y,z) =\!\int\!dV_{x'}\,G_{A}(\theta x,\theta x')G_{A}(\theta x',\theta y)G_{A}(\theta x',\theta z) = J_{A}(\theta x,\theta y,\theta z).\tag{5} $$

Again the result is advanced and all three external points are simultaneously time‑reversed. There is no simple identity such as $J_{R}(x,y,z)=J_{A}(y,z,x)$.



Response to comments:

1. When does the global time‑reversal map θ exist?

  • Prerequisites. A smooth Cauchy temporal function $T:M\!\to\!\mathbb R$ is a function whose level sets are smooth Cauchy hypersurfaces and whose gradient is everywhere timelike and past‑directed. Bernal & Sánchez proved that every time‑orientable globally hyperbolic spacetime admits such a function $T$ (see arXiv:gr-qc/0512095v1 )

  • Definition of θ Once any such $T$ is chosen, one defines

    $$ \theta:M\longrightarrow M,\qquad p\;\mapsto\;T^{-1}\!\!\bigl(-T(p)\bigr), $$

    i.e. in adapted coordinates $(t,\mathbf x)$ it acts as $(t,\mathbf x)\mapsto(-t,\mathbf x)$.

  • Killing field not required. A global timelike Killing vector would make $\theta$ an isometry, but it is not needed for $\theta$ to be a well‑defined smooth diffeomorphism. Global hyperbolicity + time‑orientability suffice.

  • Non‑globally hyperbolic cases. Without global hyperbolicity one may still construct local time‑reversals in neighbourhoods that admit a temporal coordinate, but a single global diffeomorphism with the required causal property need not exist (e.g. in Gödel space‑time).


2. Effect of lower‑order terms in the operator

Let

$$ P\phi \;=\;\Box_g\phi\;+\;V(x)\,\phi $$

with real potential $V$. Because the principal symbol is still the metric $g^{\mu\nu}k_\mu k_\nu$, $P$ remains normally hyperbolic and (for real $V$) formally self‑adjoint. Hence

Existence/uniqueness of $G_{R/A}$ is unchanged; Symmetry identity

$$ G_R(x,y)=G_A(y,x)\tag{2} $$

still holds because it follows only from formal self‑adjointness and the causal support properties.

However, the stronger identity

$$ G_R(x,y)=G_A(\theta x,\theta y)\tag{1} $$

requires $P\circ\theta^{\!*}=\theta^{\!*}\!\circ P$. This is true iff all lower‑order coefficients are even under $\theta$ – i.e. $V(\theta x)=V(x)$. If the potential is not time‑reflection symmetric, eq. (1) fails, while eq. (2) survives.

(If $V$ depends on $\phi$ itself the operator is nonlinear; retarded/advanced linear Green functions are then defined for the linearised operator, and the same remarks apply to that linearisation.)


3. Which identity is “most general’’ – (1) or (2)?

  • Equation (2) (argument swap) is the general statement valid on any time‑orientable globally hyperbolic manifold for any formally self‑adjoint normally‑hyperbolic operator.
  • Equation (1) (θ‑pull‑back) is an additional refinement that becomes available only when $P$ commutes with θ, i.e. when θ is an isometry of $g$ and leaves the lower‑order terms invariant.

So (2) is logically more fundamental; (1) is a corollary under extra symmetry.


  1. Typo in Eq. (5)

You are right—my integrand inadvertently combined both “retarded → advanced’’ and a second time‑reversal of the arguments. The correct chain is

$$ \begin{aligned} J_R(\theta x,\theta y,\theta z) &= \!\!\int\!dV_{x'}\,G_R(\theta x,x')G_R(x',\theta y)G_R(x',\theta z)\\[4pt] &= \int\!dV_{x'}\,G_A(x,\theta x')G_A(\theta x',y)G_A(\theta x',z)\\[4pt] &=\int\!dV_{x''}\,G_A(x,x'')G_A(x'',y)G_A(x'',z)\qquad (x''=\theta x')\\[4pt] &=J_A(x,y,z). \end{aligned} $$

Hence the clean statement is

$$ \boxed{\;\theta^{\!*}J_R \;=\; J_A,\qquad\text{or equivalently}\quad J_R(x,y,z)=J_A(\theta x,\theta y,\theta z).} $$

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for your answer! I have some follow-up questions, if you don't mind. In the first part of your answer, could you clarify when does the function $\theta$ exist? I believe it doesn't exist for spacetimes without a global time Killing field, but I'm not sure. Furthermore, adding a potential to the D'alambertian wouldn't change anything, right? Say the operator is $P\phi =\Box \phi + V'(\phi)$, that is still normally‑hyperbolic, if $\Box$ is... $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 27 at 13:50
  • $\begingroup$ Then, I am a bit confused about which equation -(1) or (2)- is the most general. Do I understand correctly that (2) is the most general and that (1) only applies when time-reversals are an isometry of spacetime? $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 27 at 13:51
  • $\begingroup$ Last question: Is it possible that there is a typo in Eq. (5)? Inside the integral, either the 2-point functions should be retarded or their arguments shouldn't be time-reversed, otherwise there seems to be a doubling of the effect, no? $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 27 at 13:53
  • $\begingroup$ @P.C.Spaniel I updated the response, let me know if anything is unclear! $\endgroup$ Commented Jun 27 at 20:47
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for all the changes, on further inspection, there's one thing that I'm still confused by! Equation (1) can be understood as flipping the signs of the time components of x and y while Equation (2) entails exchanging x and y. In spacetimes with time-translation symmetry, it follows that the Green function depends only on the difference $x^0-y^0$. Hence Equation (2) can be understood as flipping only the time components. Continue on following comment... $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 9 at 17:26

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