Timeline for Consider changing the wording of the "too localized" close reason
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| May 14, 2012 at 6:58 | comment | added | Benjol | @Shog9, I suspect that changing the title would be more helpful than changing the description. In any case, just changing the description isn't enough, to my mind. As bobobobo says, "'localized' is a bad word". Ambiguity always eventually leads to trouble. I understand Mark's frustration though. Jeff and your comments do come off a bit "what problem? There's no problem." I think it's more constructive to say (as you just have), "There's a problem, but I think it's more to do with..." | |
| May 14, 2012 at 5:59 | comment | added | Shog9 StaffMod | @Mark: hand-wringing doesn't fix anything. You're asking for a change in wording, but four out of the five suggestions here are, in my opinion, worse than what we have now (I kinda like bobobobo's). I asked for examples because I suspected (and my suspicion grows stronger the more of these I look at) that the real problem has little to do with the wording at this point and everything to do with the close reason simply being utterly inappropriate for some subjects. I'm not interested in re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. | |
| May 14, 2012 at 5:40 | comment | added | user149432 | Anyway, it's your site: just status-declined it already. Not really worth wasting more of my time providing examples for you guys when it seems you guys seem pretty hostile to the idea of it changing. | |
| May 14, 2012 at 5:35 | comment | added | user149432 | @Shog9 that type of blasé dismissal is why I avoided providing examples: that it's all in my head or localized to one site (that's broken anyway) even though even a cursory search on MSO shows this has been a problem since 2009—because I happened to stop after wasting 2 hours coming up with 20 something examples on just three sites out of 80+. I'm sorry I wasn't clear: this is not a problem localized to Gaming. It's a problem on every single site, and I'm frankly surprised you and Jeff seem oblivious to that. Everyone else in this discussion seems to take it as a given there's a problem. | |
| May 14, 2012 at 4:51 | comment | added | Shog9 StaffMod | I think varying slightly from site to site is the important thing here, @Benjol - note that on Code Review and Writers nearly everything is extremely localized, so applying the same standards as one might on SO would be disastrous. The numbers bear this out: only one question has ever been closed as TL on Code Review, and only 9 on Writers. Mark's frustration seems to stem primarily from its application on Gaming, where I must agree it should probably see less use. | |
| May 14, 2012 at 4:45 | comment | added | Benjol | @Shog9, seems the problem is we can't even agree between ourselves what this close reason means. That and its meaning seems to morph slightly from site to site. | |
| May 13, 2012 at 17:30 | comment | added | Shog9 StaffMod | Reading these answers, I'm becoming more and more convinced that the problem isn't the current wording... | |
| May 13, 2012 at 11:08 | comment | added | Pekka | @Mark hmm, that's a fair point now that you mention it. | |
| May 13, 2012 at 10:46 | comment | added | user149432 | I think this would just create a new source of confusion because close reasons apply to the question itself, not the circumstances described in the question. Questions should be specific, and we even tell people to be specific when they ask a question. I can only imagine the number of new complaints over getting mixed messages about specificity when questions get closed as "too specific" due to the equivocation. | |
| May 13, 2012 at 10:43 | history | edited | Pekka | CC BY-SA 3.0 | deleted 121 characters in body |
| May 13, 2012 at 10:27 | history | answered | Pekka | CC BY-SA 3.0 |