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  • What makes you think they'll hide links to MSE? It will still have the footer link. Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:02
  • The thing I've heard people say is that "whole network issues can still be posted on whichever per-site meta you're most comfortable with" which sounds like a nightmare; 100 unlinked duplicates of the same feature request - excellent Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:04
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    @random When I click the "StackExchange" drop-down in the navigation bar the first item is the site I am on, the second item is the meta for the site I am on. Do you think somebody is going to click on the footer link, given the easy path to MSO that exists in the navigation area (which is also used for all other common tasks, and thus attractive as a means of navigation) instead? Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:04
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    You're kinda missing the point of all this. It's not to get SO users to stop posting on MSO - it's to give folks who aren't SO users a place to go. If I'm a SO user and I have a question about my question, a meta-question as it were, MSO is exactly where I should be asking this - not MSE! Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:10
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    Oh, and if I catch folks telling SO users to post on MSE, that will be ended right quick. Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:11
  • @Shog9 Folks who aren't SO users have other site metas. Nobody just has a generic SE account. You always have to sign up somewhere to post on a meta, and you're going to go to the meta of the site you signed up on, SO or not (but never SE). What would be an example path that a person who has no accounts anywhere on any SE site would take to post on MSE? Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:11
  • Right. So what's your point? Site-metas are supposed to be conveniently-accessible to site-members. That's their purpose. MSE will essentially become the meta-meta, a place to discuss issues that have run their course on one or more per-site metas without being resolved: day-to-day support and discussion of most per-site issues should not be happening there. Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:14
  • @Shog9 You stated that the point of MSE is to give folks who aren't SO users a place to go. Question 1: Propose an example path that a person who has no accounts anywhere on SE site would take to post on MSE. The difficulty you will have in doing so is strongly illustrative of my point. Question 2: How will we get people to post on MSE? Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:16
  • If you delete all the current MSO questions that mention an SO question in any way, that'll be MSE, and there's a lot of that still Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:18
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    A1: Why does someone with no SE accounts need to be on MSE? (they don't, unless their question is "how do I create an account") A2: we won't; they will anyway. Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:18
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    A3: correct. Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:19
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    MSE is for people who are interested in the network as a whole, and there are plenty of those too Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:19
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    Nothing's stopping anyone from going to their own meta sites. We want them to go there. MSE should not be a first-stop for anything. Do you call your congressman every time you hit a pothole? Of course not, because you're not crazy. If MSE gets <1% of the posts of all the other metas, that would not be a terrible thing at all - that's a scalable system right there. You're looking at this change and predicting that MSE will get much less traffic after the split - yes, it should, and that's why we're doing it; there'd be no point otherwise. Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:24
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    If you've ever used SU, SF or the other 150+ sites on the network, ask how those users ever managed to find their way to MSO when it's not their nearest meta Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:25
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    Tell ya what: Tim's gonna crank out a blog post here when this juggernaut gets moving, and we'll try to make sure it clears this up for you. Commented Apr 14, 2014 at 21:27