Timeline for If more users could vote, would they engage more? Testing 1 reputation voting on some sites
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| Sep 21, 2023 at 21:26 | comment | added | Michael come lately | @Catija Side note: I wanted to give you recognition for engaging in the comments. I disagree with the main proposal, but I admire the way you are talking with people even so. If I were in your place, I would not sound so even-tempered. | |
| Sep 21, 2023 at 21:15 | comment | added | Michael come lately | @Catija "Past me" would have been very excited about the "Good edit suggesters skip the queue" idea. Definitely more excited than about 1-rep votes. (Well, I think there is a decent case to be made for making the votes 'count' once you reach the rep thresholds, but I'll let other people describe that in their answers.) | |
| Sep 21, 2023 at 17:43 | comment | added | Catija StaffMod | They're not either-or, @RandomPerson - this is the first part of the project. While much more complex and harder to sell than the edit privilege changes I spoke of, it's one the product team has determined for various reasons is significantly more potentially valuable. I understand and agree with these reasons and have actually identified additional ways this change could really help sites. I have my own reservations and I accept that this is a big change with risks involved. Which is why we're working so hard to do it right. Once this is underway, expect to see me back at the edit privilege. | |
| Sep 20, 2023 at 17:38 | comment | added | Random Person | @Catija I appreciate your comments and I feel you briefly mentioned them here. I would have loved this project if we focused on giving edit access to good editors instead of high-rep users, instead of voting since voting is a complicated topic. Also, I concur with curiousdannii's opinion that people who don't use their votes properly, should be deprived of the privilege to vote. | |
| Sep 20, 2023 at 12:45 | comment | added | curiousdannii | @Catija I'd love to see a system where people who upvote posts that get deleted as spam lose the ability to upvote, if that sort of thing is where those comments are hinting... | |
| Sep 20, 2023 at 7:16 | comment | added | Catija StaffMod | The two systems are very different but I use the edit privilege because it's been useful in showing users why the reputation-based system is flawed. We're preventing known-good editors from just doing what they do while we let someone who has a bunch of reputation but has never edited someone's post or had a suggested edit approved - edit freely with only the recent activity pages to invite any review from other users. Why? By using reputation to grant voting privileges, we're "trusting" users with 15 or 125 reputation and reducing the pressure to build tooling to review vote quality. | |
| Sep 20, 2023 at 7:05 | comment | added | Catija StaffMod | The suggested edits queue on SO is nearly always full. Imagine if, instead of perpetually requiring all users with <2k rep to suggest edits because the edit privilege is locked to 2k rep, we instead granted the privilege to anyone who had at least 20 suggested edits and at least 19 of their 20 most recent suggestions were accepted. This could incentivise good edits, reduce the suggested edit queue size and maybe even earn a new suggested edit reviewer. If we stop granting edits at 2k by default, we could also reduce bad edits by high-rep users who don't actually know how to edit appropriately. | |
| Sep 20, 2023 at 6:57 | comment | added | Catija StaffMod | We considered many different options, and the plan originally shared with mods several months ago was very different than this one. But the issue with any option other than 1 rep to vote is that it still gates voting behind a requirement to create well-received content (including suggest edits). Insisting content creation is necessary to validate if someone is capable of using a privilege, is a model we want to move away from. It may have gotten us here but that doesn't mean it's a good model. | |
| Sep 19, 2023 at 18:27 | history | answered | Random Person | CC BY-SA 4.0 |