Timeline for Non-novel/non-inventive patent of subcomponent of device that was already previously patented?
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| Apr 21, 2020 at 22:47 | vote | accept | The Pointer | ||
| Apr 21, 2020 at 20:46 | answer | added | George White♦ | timeline score: 1 | |
| Apr 21, 2020 at 18:30 | comment | added | The Pointer | @EricShain Oh, I see. My mistake. Even so, the use that is described in that patent has been done previously in research papers. | |
| Apr 21, 2020 at 18:28 | comment | added | Eric S | You state: "With regards to 1., my understanding is that patents are on the technology itself, rather than on how it is used (or, in this case, what it is used to measure), right? So it seems to me that this would be invalid." This is flat wrong. You can definitely get a patent on an old device as applied in a new way or use. | |
| Apr 21, 2020 at 18:27 | comment | added | The Pointer | @EricShain Hmm, what am I doing incorrectly? Are these not patents? | |
| Apr 21, 2020 at 18:24 | comment | added | Eric S | Of the three links you just provided, only one is an issued patent. You should put links to the patents in the question above. That way we can read and assess them. I suspect you don't know how to differentiate between a patent and an application. | |
| Apr 21, 2020 at 17:26 | comment | added | George White♦ | I do not see any reason why you can't provide more information regarding your question. If you want to keep it confidential then do not post it at all. | |
| Apr 21, 2020 at 17:22 | comment | added | The Pointer | @GeorgeWhite The patents.google page states that the patent application has been granted, and so it is "active" and has an expiration date listed. Would you mind if post the associated patents as a comment and then delete it later? I'm not sure if this is allowed on patents.stackexchange. | |
| Apr 21, 2020 at 17:06 | comment | added | George White♦ | A google patent search string "(surface radiation "integrated device" "data processing module") country:US before:priority:20190101 after:priority:20150101" produces one hit and its status is "pending" - does this have any bearing on your question? | |
| Apr 21, 2020 at 17:01 | comment | added | George White♦ | Has the "patent" published in 2018 actually been granted? | |
| Apr 21, 2020 at 16:21 | comment | added | George White♦ | Separately, you mention a distinction between technology and "use case". If the later patent has method claims they are specifically drawn to the specific use, not the device. To get good answers you might consider researching these points and refining (shortening) your question. So-called trolls often buy patents rather than prosecute patents and most that I have heard called trolls are U.S. based. | |
| Apr 21, 2020 at 16:20 | comment | added | George White♦ | Did the later application cite the earlier application? Looking at the later patent in google patents or other database you can see a list of all of the references collectively brought up by the applicant and the examiner. That will let you know if the examiner considered the earlier application when the later application was being examined. If so, you can see if it was used in a rejection and, if so, how the applicant overcame the reference. You can see all of the back-and-forth between the applicants in the USPTO Public PAIR. | |
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