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May 21, 2015 at 14:41 comment added DrewJordan Right, I totally agree. Reworded the first paragraph so it sounds less condescending. I just wanted to make sure that OP knew that a good portion of the workforce out there doesn't actually have a formal background. Poor choice of words on my part.
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May 21, 2015 at 13:50 comment added pmf "Many companies are stuck like this; you might even be surprised to find that some of your 'developer' colleagues are self-taught and became developers with no formal background whatsoever." These often turn out to be the most valuable developers due to their domain expertise.
May 21, 2015 at 10:40 comment added DrewJordan Actually I meant it the other way: the OP would be surprised by how many good devs are out there without formal education. Many tech positions opened up in the past 20/30 years that were filled by people willing to learn instead of kids with a degree. And my findings mirror yours: experience is always better than education. That's why the OP needs to go slow... pushing a team to adopt new practices too fast will make them resent him, and he won't have the experience to temper those attitudes. Also important to realize is some teams will never use these tools; that's when you get a new job.
May 21, 2015 at 9:20 comment added djeikyb I doubt you meant much by it, but I kinda resent the gibe at devs like me without a university compsci education. My experience has (rather unfortunately) been that university education has little correlation with developer quality. And so far in my career, I've been one of those advocating for and implementing best practices. Your advice is great though.
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