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  • I think you might be missing the point of the question I'm not suggesting that frameworks aren't good tools its since there are so many tools out there providing so much abstraction is it enabling more people to blame thier tool. Commented Sep 20, 2010 at 21:43
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    @Gratzy: well, sure. The more people use a tool, the more bitch about it. When computers were huge, expensive and rare, only a handful of people in the world could complain about how hard they were to use - now everyone does. Similarly, frameworks don't have to make programmers any dumber - they just happen to attract lots and lots of dumb programmers. Commented Sep 20, 2010 at 21:51