Timeline for What limited the use of the 6809 CPU in personal computers?
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| Jul 28, 2021 at 14:33 | comment | added | Almo | @MarkRansom I have one too! :D Solar Quest is very good. | |
| Jul 28, 2021 at 1:20 | comment | added | Mark Ransom | @Almo I still have a Vectrex, although I probably haven't taken it out of the box in over 10 years. I picked it up along with a ton of game cartridges when it was discontinued and went on super-clearance. I got quite good at Mine Storm, progressing to levels that I'm sure were past the design intent because they appeared to have massive bugs. | |
| Jul 27, 2021 at 6:51 | history | edited | Toby Speight | CC BY-SA 4.0 | Spelling and grammar |
| Oct 15, 2020 at 21:28 | history | edited | Raffzahn | CC BY-SA 4.0 | edited body |
| S Feb 17, 2020 at 4:44 | history | suggested | Rich Shealer | CC BY-SA 4.0 | The Old Computer Museum links needed the https: prefix rather than http: |
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| Nov 2, 2018 at 0:56 | comment | added | LаngLаngС | Let us continue this discussion in chat. | |
| Nov 2, 2018 at 0:52 | comment | added | Raffzahn | Still got twice successful in it - anyway, got to get some sleep. Got to get up early tomorrow and do some interviews and finally sign the leastfor a nice little exhibition Im prepareing - ofc, all about old computers, from punch cards to PCs. | |
| Nov 2, 2018 at 0:51 | comment | added | Raffzahn | @LangLangC Well, I do enjoy a good typography, but I have to disagree about the notion that there is a 'correct' one. It's a matter of culture and maybe moreso of personal style. Typography is an art to please and can be good in many ways. It starts by the lenght of a hyphen used for each purpose. The ones offered here are way too long for my background and look plain uggly. Much similar the use of 'wrong' quotings instead of '»...«' :)) ... and many others. Beside being portable, 7 bit encoding also eliminates all possible missuse :)) | |
| Nov 2, 2018 at 0:46 | comment | added | LаngLаngС | How about "There have been many successful 6809 systems (in their time). But then it was already too late to successfully compete with the upcoming 16-bit systems."? | |
| Nov 2, 2018 at 0:40 | comment | added | Raffzahn | @LangLangC Ah, Now I see. I have to admit, that I only did a fast check and therefor not checked the environment for bad style due double use of the wame wird. Great job, except in this case it dont know of any way to avoide it, as its about two different issues, and in my understanding successful is the best word in both cases: That the machines on themself where successful /which was part of the question), but they (in total) where to late to be successful against the upcoming 16 bit - which describes the whole dilemma of the 6809 in general. I'm always open for suggestions to improve | |
| Nov 2, 2018 at 0:39 | comment | added | LаngLаngС | The hyphen issue is just the one thing I learned by myself from your edits. No problem for me – if communicated – as I like the typographic correctness but our shared time not wasted even more. –– & yeah I still write 7bit ASCII in mail subjects, but my professional writing very much benefits from unicode and visually appealing use of typography, as paper is the medium of choice. Multiple personalities sometimes overlap, that's the only time any confusion arises. | |
| Nov 2, 2018 at 0:33 | comment | added | LаngLаngС | Ah well. I write in British myself and keep US in edits if present (and I notice). Avoiding edit-wars and keeping changes to the minimum in meaning, most similar in style. Only in this case I interpreted the two "successful"s as being on the same level of meaning unintentionally. If they are intentionally the way they are I'd still disagree a bit in style and ease of comprehension, but see what this should accomplish now. Indeed my error, as that's opinion then; and your post. Thx for the explanation, dialing back a notch on interpretation ;) | |
| Nov 2, 2018 at 0:27 | comment | added | Raffzahn | Regarding hypens of any kind, periods or more so the use of HTML, I do active shun them. I considere them at best being unneccessary eye candy, but more often than not harmful. I try to stay to plain ISO646-IRV, as these are guaranteed to work almost everywhere. And yes, I am using non-Unicode and non-8850 codeset machines on a daily base. Heck, Im usually not even using German umlauts. Crap like using SUP is even more devastating, as copying text, will drop it, thus possible changeing the meaning. The way I write is impenetrable against such conversion problems - well proven since usenet time | |
| Nov 2, 2018 at 0:22 | comment | added | Raffzahn | ... when people change meaning. In this case, you changed "many successful" to "many relatively successful". That's inserting an unitended notion and the reason why I choose to select the item of unwanted changes. I learned to trust your corrections, and only do a very quick skimming, not expecting any issue, only looking at larger changes. As more did this suprise me. Again, I very much apreciate your help, and while I would prefer English grammer and spelling over US style, I'm the last to argue about grammer and spelling at all. ... | |
| Nov 2, 2018 at 0:21 | comment | added | Raffzahn | @LangLangC First of, I realy apreciate you effort (and the one otehrs invers) to improve my way less than acceptable spelling. No doubt, without it would be a horrible read. Still, not every change is an improvement. It might b less noticable to you, but there have been almost fights about spelling in some - including multiple changes between US and English spelling and back. Or people changing passages more about taste than content. I usually go along, and enjoy how people think their variation of grammer is the only one to go. Where I'm not going along is ... | |
| Nov 1, 2018 at 23:41 | comment | added | LаngLаngС | If you insist on using divis where it shouldn't occur, OK. But care to explain why the suggest was making "drastic changes"…"deviating" when the whole intent was only to fix grammar and unclear sentence constructions? (eg conclusio: "was successful" … "to late to successfully" is confusing). I learned your divis quirks and leave them be; but I would like to save your time – and mine in the future. | |
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| S Mar 30, 2018 at 22:07 | history | suggested | quark67 | CC BY-SA 3.0 | There wasn't MO7 computer, but before MO5 there was TO7 (reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_computers ). As I need at least 6 characters change, I suggest to change Bit to bit, and add a hyphen in "xx bit" expression. |
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| Feb 20, 2018 at 12:24 | history | edited | Raffzahn | CC BY-SA 3.0 | Commodores kernel was called Kernal |
| S Feb 20, 2018 at 12:15 | history | suggested | Rags | CC BY-SA 3.0 | Corrected spelling/grammar |
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| Feb 20, 2018 at 6:17 | comment | added | Raffzahn | @scruss The 6502 wasn't independant, as they could just work interleaved. The same mechanics are true for the Z80. Then again, there have been real independant cards for the Apple II where the additional processors had seperate Memory and could realy work in parallel. | |
| Feb 20, 2018 at 2:03 | comment | added | scruss | Nice answer! Shame the question's closed, but The Mill card would've been a great answer for “What early home computers have more than one CPU, where both could be used by the programmer?”. It looks like it was a fully independent 6809 that could interact with the 6502 in the Apple //. | |
| Feb 19, 2018 at 23:53 | history | edited | Raffzahn | CC BY-SA 3.0 | added 1 character in body |
| Feb 19, 2018 at 20:52 | history | edited | Raffzahn | CC BY-SA 3.0 | added 1 character in body |
| Feb 19, 2018 at 20:44 | history | edited | Raffzahn | CC BY-SA 3.0 | added 5 characters in body |
| Feb 19, 2018 at 20:38 | comment | added | Almo | Vectrex. I had one of those. :) | |
| Feb 19, 2018 at 18:44 | comment | added | Raffzahn | I wouldn't call it more open. Just different markets with comanies beliving to have a chance. In case of Thomson, try to imagine if GE had come up with a home computer in 1982 to match some government recomendation for a nation wide school system. That might give a comparable picture. | |
| Feb 19, 2018 at 18:37 | history | edited | Raffzahn | CC BY-SA 3.0 | edited body |
| S Feb 19, 2018 at 15:52 | history | suggested | manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact | CC BY-SA 3.0 | spelling & grammar |
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| Feb 19, 2018 at 15:25 | comment | added | RichF | Thank you for this well-researched and point-by-point response. With my North American perspective, I was only aware of your list's Dragon computer. I guess the Vectrix was sold in the USA, but I don't remember it, not having much interest in game consoles. I'm glad the rest of the world was more open to a broader spectrum of home/office machines. | |
| Feb 19, 2018 at 15:12 | vote | accept | RichF | ||
| Feb 19, 2018 at 14:23 | history | edited | Raffzahn | CC BY-SA 3.0 | added 319 characters in body |
| Feb 19, 2018 at 13:05 | history | edited | Raffzahn | CC BY-SA 3.0 | added 238 characters in body |
| Feb 19, 2018 at 11:31 | history | answered | Raffzahn | CC BY-SA 3.0 |