Timeline for Would rolling a 1 on a spell saving throw causing double that spell's damage be unbalanced?
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| S Apr 18, 2018 at 15:28 | history | suggested | HellSaint | CC BY-SA 3.0 | Changed the math to LaTeX/MathJax for formality. |
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| Apr 17, 2018 at 20:50 | comment | added | Spoo | That isn't too bad. It just raises the minimum level at which your player's can feel safe that they won't die to one spell. IMO it still gives a bit too much power to those casters that can manipulate die rolls like the divination wizard and anything is paralyzed will die instantly to the next dex save they make, but all in all I wouldn't consider it gamebreaking if your players are ok with it. | |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 22:34 | comment | added | BurningBagel | I did forget to mention that we also consider a 20 on the save to avoid all of the spell's damage | |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 21:18 | history | edited | V2Blast♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 | fixed formatting and phrasing |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:58 | comment | added | Spoo | I should apologize. The levels 1-3ish are brutal I grant you. But outside of that the rest of the game is not like that if you follow it by raw. Outside of that though, the rest of the game does a good job of not burdening you with save or die tactics. (At least not in one round.) I make no claims over level 9 spells though. But most of the damaging ones are nice enough to do < twice your total hp. 40k) I've seen characters just suddenly disappear because the 'critical effect' killed them instantly and caused tertiary damage killing others around them. And the weapon used is common. | |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:57 | history | edited | Spoo | CC BY-SA 3.0 | added 173 characters in body |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:55 | comment | added | KorvinStarmast | DND is not like systems like 40k where its ok to kill a player outright with a good shot That's not true. I have seen three D&D 5e characters die from a one shot (character death) at levels 1 and 2 from critical hits that rolled high. Almost lost another one that way last month, but inspiration saved the day for a re roll. | |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:49 | history | edited | Spoo | CC BY-SA 3.0 | added 186 characters in body |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:47 | comment | added | Spoo | Sorry my comment should say traditional fireball is 21. It's only 28 if you know they fail their save already. So regular fireball 21. Ended crit range fireball 22.7 | |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:37 | comment | added | Spoo | I'm not a full blown mathmatician but I've done enough with average formula's in the AI field. Ideally it should bring it back in line some. But rounding will probably not make it identical. Assuming a 11 is needed to save: Traditional Fireball = 28 Augmented Fireball 1/20 * 16 * 3.5 + 1/20 * 0 + 9/20 * 8 * 3.5 + 9/20 * 4 * 3.5 = 2.8 + 0 + 12.6 + 6.3 = 21.7 | |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:20 | history | edited | Slagmoth | CC BY-SA 3.0 | deleted 14 characters in body |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:17 | history | edited | Spoo | CC BY-SA 3.0 | typo |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:14 | comment | added | V2Blast♦ | I know this isn't OP's question, but how would implementing both double damage on nat. 1s and zero damage on nat. 20s on saving throws affect the math? | |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:09 | history | edited | Slagmoth | CC BY-SA 3.0 | deleted 7 characters in body |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:06 | history | edited | Spoo | CC BY-SA 3.0 | typo |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:04 | history | edited | V2Blast♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 | fixed formatting |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 19:03 | history | edited | Spoo | CC BY-SA 3.0 | added 468 characters in body |
| Apr 16, 2018 at 18:58 | history | answered | Spoo | CC BY-SA 3.0 |