Timeline for Biometric authentication in the real world
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| May 3, 2011 at 21:36 | comment | added | AviD♦ | @Rory as I often say, this site does not need to be purely technical - there is a lot of room for "risk analysis / management" type questions. As such, it makes a lot of sense to look at airports as a large system, that needs to be risk-managed. There is a lot in common - just ask @Schneier... ;) | |
| May 3, 2011 at 21:32 | comment | added | Rory Alsop♦ | @AviD - good point. And as the 'security' proposal on Area51 looks to be failing I guess here is the only place where things will be discussed on that topic. Will try and think of some good questions. | |
| May 3, 2011 at 21:25 | comment | added | AviD♦ | @Rory aah yeaah... join the club. Anytime I travel my wife is worried I'm gonna get myself locked up... But really, we should get some airport-related questions here.... cuz this comment thread has long gone off-topic :D | |
| May 3, 2011 at 21:02 | comment | added | Rory Alsop♦ | @AviD - nail on the head there. Fraud prevention :-) But it's sold as..... THE WAR ON TERROR (can you tell how cynical I am about airport security :-) | |
| May 3, 2011 at 20:58 | comment | added | AviD♦ | @Rory, there are plenty of airports that allow passengers based on biometrics. Finding terrorists is a different story altogether... Though I agree it's flawed, I think it is actually a good idea there, even if accidentally - you shouldnt be trying to identify the passengers, you should be preventing guns/bombs/etc. Identifying the passengers is strictly in the interests of the airlines, to prevent ticket fraud, not terror attacks. | |
| May 3, 2011 at 20:52 | comment | added | Rory Alsop♦ | @Eugene - I agree it wasn't intended for most uses it is put to, but I have to say the HP notebook implementation is not good for protecting access. Very few fingerprint implementations are unless you can securely control the physical environment - which you can't with a laptop. As an addition to the usual username, password it helps, but typically people use it to replace the password. Not good. | |
| May 3, 2011 at 20:49 | comment | added | Rory Alsop♦ | @AviD - but you can't use biometrics to accurately identify anyone in a large enough group of people. | |
| May 3, 2011 at 19:22 | comment | added | Eugene Mayevski 'Callback | @Rory biometrics indeed was not designed for such tasks, but works pretty well to protect access to mobile devices (and it's used this way eg. in HP EliteBook notebooks) or as a part of multi-factor authentication in many scenarios. | |
| May 3, 2011 at 19:19 | comment | added | AviD♦ | @Rory, actually the problem there is that you cant "identify" terrorists. It's not like you have a specific list of names of the terrorists.... well, except for the TSA's No-Fly list... | |
| May 3, 2011 at 19:08 | comment | added | Rory Alsop♦ | @Eugene - that is why you can't use biometrics at all in many instances where you would want to use them: 99.999% accuracy is next to useless for identifying terrorists in airports for example, as the sample set is so huge. | |
| May 1, 2011 at 16:06 | comment | added | Eugene Mayevski 'Callback | @AviD thank you for the number. For fingerprints authentication the numbers are 99,99% and higher (i.e. one failure in 10000 attempts or so). So voice is a bit behind in this aspect. That is why I called it "far from working" and didn't count it. | |
| May 1, 2011 at 9:55 | comment | added | AviD♦ | Voice authentication, of course. "High reliability" is relative, and while I dont think it hits 99%, it can give better results (depending on tuning, crossover, etc) than other common mechanisms. That said, I do agree that it's not quite "there" yet. | |
| May 1, 2011 at 8:04 | comment | added | Eugene Mayevski 'Callback | @AviD are you talking about voice recognition or voice authentication? We are talking about security here, so the voice-based solution must distinguish the owners of the voice with high reliability. | |
| May 1, 2011 at 6:17 | comment | added | AviD♦ | @Eugene, that is no longer the case - I've seen very good implementation of voice, and I'm working with a startup on typing patterns, which already works superbly. | |
| May 1, 2011 at 6:15 | comment | added | AviD♦ | @Rory, I think he covers those with "etc."... ;) | |
| Apr 30, 2011 at 20:00 | comment | added | Eugene Mayevski 'Callback | @Rory Voice is far from working at the moment, and so is typing speed pattern. Those technologies are highly experimental and too unreliable for real-world use. | |
| Apr 30, 2011 at 19:44 | comment | added | Rory Alsop♦ | Well, you could also add typing cadence, voice etc. | |
| Apr 29, 2011 at 18:28 | history | answered | Eugene Mayevski 'Callback | CC BY-SA 3.0 |