Timeline for Great Expectations... or, at least, user expectations
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| May 13, 2016 at 13:55 | comment | added | Stumbler | @Telastyn wow, didn't think I'd see someone like you on Programmers Meta, getting upvotes, no less. I'm still determined never to use this stack if I can help it, but if people of your disposition come to dominate here next time I look, I may yet change my mind. | |
| Mar 18, 2016 at 9:47 | comment | added | Ben Aaronson | It's also worth noting that even if a question doesn't get closed, getting one or two duplicate votes which are obviously totally spurious can be dispiriting to the asker. It also often hurts question quality because they make edits which should be unnecessary explaining why the questions aren't the same | |
| Mar 17, 2016 at 18:46 | comment | added | JeffO | @StevenBurnap - I think the Unclear and Too Broad questions should be addressed in a way to help the OP rework the question without a Close or down vote. At l;east give them some time. If anyone ever asks what book to read, class to take or language to learn, it just needs to be deleted without debate. | |
| Mar 12, 2016 at 13:47 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | This. So much this. | |
| Mar 11, 2016 at 23:37 | comment | added | user53141 | Close votes can be hostile when they are misused. When someone asks a direct question, clearly stated which perhaps didn't fit on the site, "Unclear what you are asking" and "Too broad" are hostile votes. For instance here | |
| Mar 11, 2016 at 12:24 | comment | added | Doc Brown | Another example: the wording of the "canned comments" for the prepared closing reasons might be improved to not look so hostile. Same is most probably true for the list of "canned comments" some of us (you know who I am talking of) might have prepared over the years to use as a standard respond to those questioners which ignore the site policies. | |
| Mar 11, 2016 at 12:17 | comment | added | Doc Brown | ... However, I do not think the problem is solved by closing less questions. IMHO MichaelT has proven, that there is objectively a high number of low quality questions which cannot be saved with reasonable effort. So IMHO we should continue to close them as frequent as we did in the past, but try to be "more polite" in that process. For example, when a newbie asks an off-topic questions, some close votes (and a hint what he did wrong) are enough, giving 5 additional downvotes does not help him more. That is what makes the site looking hostile. | |
| Mar 11, 2016 at 12:14 | comment | added | Doc Brown | I entirely agree to this, and I admit, though I spend a lot of my time for answering and trying to leave at least helpful comment to a bad question, I do not always hit the right tone and I am not always so polite as I should be. I am not a patient guy. ... | |
| Mar 9, 2016 at 16:45 | comment | added | Mason Wheeler | "I fear that many people have lost that perspective. The rules have become sport; the questions our game." Yes, this is exactly what's been going on here. It's a classic problem: when you want A, but A is hard to quantify so instead you measure (and reward) B which is highly correlated to A, you end up getting lots of B but a minimal amount of A. | |
| Mar 9, 2016 at 14:32 | comment | added | user40980 | @Telastyn 5% amounts to the two questions that Thomas pointed out. And yes, that does feel about right. And that leads to the question of how do we either get knowledgeable people on the subject to help the OP refine the question. When 90-95% of the closed questions are ones that you have to sort through to get those in front of eyeballs that care to fix them and can. You will note with #2 and #33 I've tried to get enough information from the OP to get something that can be answered... but haven't gotten anything back from the OP in either case. | |
| Mar 9, 2016 at 14:26 | comment | added | Telastyn | @MichaelT - looking at the list, 1, 2, maybe 21, 33, and 34. Though these are all rather borderline, even by my standards. I expect that half or more would still end up closed after an effort to work with the OP to clarify/improve things. To be clear, I don't think that it's anywhere near half of the daily closed questions are overzealous closures - probably closer to 5-10%. | |
| Mar 9, 2016 at 14:03 | comment | added | user40980 | I've posted another bit on meta about the questions that were closed out of the 50 newest ones the other day. Would it be possible to help identify which ones were incorrectly closed, and assist cultivating those that can be improved? To me, it seems like people are suggesting that half or so of our questions are ones that we are making mistakes in pruning on. And while people occasionally point to one here or there, I have difficulty believing that this is the general case. | |
| Mar 9, 2016 at 4:31 | comment | added | Andres F. | +1 for "SE sites are here to help people. The rules exist to aid all of us in that goal. But I fear that many people have lost that perspective. The rules have become sport; the questions our game." | |
| Mar 9, 2016 at 3:12 | history | answered | Telastyn | CC BY-SA 3.0 |