You are not logged in. Your edit will be placed in a queue until it is peer reviewed.
We welcome edits that make the post easier to understand and more valuable for readers. Because community members review edits, please try to make the post substantially better than how you found it, for example, by fixing grammar or adding additional resources and hyperlinks.
Required fields*
- 2$\begingroup$ (1|day/station) means (1|day) + (1|day:station), so it's a random effect of day and a random effect of day:station interaction. An interaction between random factor and a fixed factor is random. There is no random effect of station alone here (because station is random). So Ben's answer is correct. $\endgroup$amoeba– amoeba2018-07-04 08:33:29 +00:00Commented Jul 4, 2018 at 8:33
- 1$\begingroup$ Regarding (day|station), I don't see how it makes sense if station is fixed. $\endgroup$amoeba– amoeba2018-07-04 08:34:51 +00:00Commented Jul 4, 2018 at 8:34
- $\begingroup$ Thanks @amoeba. In the first comment you wrote "(because station is random)", but I think you meant "fixed", or am I wrong? $\endgroup$locus– locus2018-07-12 23:52:03 +00:00Commented Jul 12, 2018 at 23:52
- $\begingroup$ Regarding the (1|day/station), I was confused because I thought the / symbol always meant nested random effects like in the (1|school/class) situation in which school and class are both random effects. But if I understand it correctly, the (1|A/B) syntax could also mean random effect of A plus random effect of A-B interaction. This is somewhat confusing, how does lmer distinguish between nested random effects and random-fixed interaction effect? $\endgroup$locus– locus2018-07-12 23:54:39 +00:00Commented Jul 12, 2018 at 23:54
- 1$\begingroup$ @RobertLong I honestly don't remember these discussions anymore :-) It's a been a while since I last thought about mixed models and repeated measures. But if you feel like updating/amending your answer in the linked thread, I'd be happy to re-read the whole discussion and will be happy to accept the answer if we think the question is resolved. $\endgroup$amoeba– amoeba2024-01-06 13:38:42 +00:00Commented Jan 6, 2024 at 13:38
| Show 3 more comments
How to Edit
- Correct minor typos or mistakes
- Clarify meaning without changing it
- Add related resources or links
- Always respect the author’s intent
- Don’t use edits to reply to the author
How to Format
- create code fences with backticks ` or tildes ~ ```
like so
``` - add language identifier to highlight code ```python
def function(foo):
print(foo)
``` - put returns between paragraphs
- for linebreak add 2 spaces at end
- _italic_ or **bold**
- indent code by 4 spaces
- backtick escapes
`like _so_` - quote by placing > at start of line
- to make links (use https whenever possible) <https://example.com>[example](https://example.com)<a href="https://example.com">example</a>
- MathJax equations
$\sin^2 \theta$
How to Tag
A tag is a keyword or label that categorizes your question with other, similar questions. Choose one or more (up to 5) tags that will help answerers to find and interpret your question.
- complete the sentence: my question is about...
- use tags that describe things or concepts that are essential, not incidental to your question
- favor using existing popular tags
- read the descriptions that appear below the tag
If your question is primarily about a topic for which you can't find a tag:
- combine multiple words into single-words with hyphens (e.g. machine-learning), up to a maximum of 35 characters
- creating new tags is a privilege; if you can't yet create a tag you need, then post this question without it, then ask the community to create it for you
lang-r