Timeline for Custom off-topic reasons are sometimes disparaging
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| Jan 26, 2017 at 7:16 | comment | added | jasonwryan | Well, I have captured it for posterity. Good on you for standing up for the rules; I am more interested (or at least I was) in the health of the community... | |
| Jan 26, 2017 at 7:13 | comment | added | Michael Homer | Yes, I did, that was how I flagged it. I don't care what the question is; that message is explicitly against the rules on multiple points, on top of its other qualities, and so it should be flagged. There are other unsuitable messages on the list too, and I have seen still more that aren't included. | |
| Jan 26, 2017 at 7:05 | comment | added | jasonwryan | @MichaelHomer So, one is disparaging? Did you bother to look at the question it was attached to? Perhaps you might include that for context? | |
| Jan 26, 2017 at 7:02 | comment | added | Michael Homer | To be clear, again, the list is everything from the 30 day pane on the moderator tools, not filtered in any way. Most of them are entirely acceptable. "lazy moron" is not, and should be flagged. | |
| Jan 26, 2017 at 5:00 | comment | added | jasonwryan | @Scott of the custom reponses listed in the question, only a handful can actually be considered "disparaging". Most are actually informative. There are, however, cases where it is reasonable to got beyond disparaging. I feel confident that when I have been condescending or insulting, it is entirely justified. Contempt for the community can legitimately be answered with scorn and derision, as far as I am concerned. | |
| Jan 26, 2017 at 4:11 | comment | added | Scott - Слава Україні | I’m torn by this. On the one hand, I see your point. OTOH, a user who is told, “we won’t do your homework” might learn how the site works and return with better questions, but a user who is called a “lazy moron” might just go away mad. Even Amy Hoy’s Help Vampires: A Spotter’s Guide (to which you linked) says, “Be friendly. People and Help Vampires are much more likely to become useful members of the community if they’re met with kindness and encouragement rather than condescension and spite.” (last bullet in list #2 Cease Enabling Behavior). | |
| Jan 17, 2017 at 22:47 | comment | added | jasonwryan | @phk that is my entire point: unless you are a dick about it, the clueless vampire thinks that their question is closed because it is off-topic (which it is), not that it is also an abuse of the goodwill of this community. Posting a cat gif as your question is not something that you just let slide. Not unless you want to keep having to vote to close that sort of crap... | |
| Jan 17, 2017 at 22:16 | comment | added | phk | @jasonwryan Yes, I get that, kinda like the broken windows stuff. But my argument was that you don't have to be a phallus about it (at least letting the users in question know) and at most you could argue that you have to show phallic behavior in order to preserve your willingness to moderate. But apart from that, there is no reason not to be (what is considered) professional in your behavior. | |
| Jan 17, 2017 at 22:13 | comment | added | jasonwryan | @phk both links, in different ways, illustrate the risks to online communities around not actively discouraging selfish, entitled behaviours (see also tragedy of the commons). | |
| Jan 17, 2017 at 21:49 | comment | added | phk | I don't get what your position you underlined with links has to do with you wanting to "accurately convey my displeasure". I skimmed through them and couldn't find anything supporting your position in this. Don't get me wrong though, I get that sometimes it might he hard to hold back and it would be sad if someone stopped being active in moderating stuff just because it costs too much effort to be professional and reserved. That's the best argument I can see for conveying displeasure. | |
| Jan 15, 2017 at 23:40 | history | edited | jasonwryan | CC BY-SA 3.0 | Clarified |
| Jan 15, 2017 at 23:38 | comment | added | Michael Homer | I've edited in some passages from the Be Nice policy; you may wish to update the answer correspondingly (or not). | |
| Jan 15, 2017 at 23:38 | comment | added | jasonwryan | @MichaelHomer No, you overestimate my industriousness. I can take credit for popularising the approach; but many of those are not mine. | |
| Jan 15, 2017 at 23:30 | comment | added | Michael Homer | I think they might all be yours, yes, but I didn't want to say that if I wasn't certain. | |
| Jan 15, 2017 at 23:28 | history | answered | jasonwryan | CC BY-SA 3.0 |