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    Keep in mind that creation time in file systems that support it have always been accessible as an extended stat. It's just that implementation for getting those extended stats vary quite a bit, so there not in tools like ls or find. Argument being is that ls would have to know details of the file system to get the info and that's not what ls is about. Commented Aug 21, 2016 at 16:15
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    using something like debugfs to read the field off the disk image isn't much of an interface, and it's going to need privileged access anyway. Commented Aug 21, 2016 at 16:36
  • Seems like the arguments were because the place to actually change this before implimentation should be consider is in POSIX itself. :) Commented Apr 24, 2018 at 18:16