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Yi Jiang

00:17

Hmmmm?

Oh look, I can still see my last message! It is quite in here

Rebecca Chernoff

heh

Is that the standard measurement? Whether or not your last message is still on the page? (;

Yi Jiang

@Rebecca Chernoff @RebeccaChernoff Sure, why not?

Rebecca Chernoff

Just an observation.

badp

I was busy.

nods

Yi Jiang

@badp @badp Uh?

badp

00:29

obviously that's for graphic design.

@Yi Jiang @YiJiang why make railways in OpenTTD when you can make railways in Minecraft? They don't even have to bring you to something meaningful to begin with!

Yi Jiang

@badp @badp So what graphing software did you use there?

badp

@Yi Jiang @YiJiang advanced stuff. Google Docs.

Still it made me appreciate all the work that goes in those maps.

For example I should be drawing all those lakes and seas and stuff.

Yi Jiang

Shouldn't you try to use the Google Maps thingadongdong then?

badp

and find more points of interest

@Yi Jiang @YiJiang yeah, well, that's not useful if you want to plan building ahead :)

wait, actually it is

...if you want to go to places, but who cares about that :D

(besides connecting to a place makes it easier to build stuff near it.)

Yi Jiang

Getting annoyed by JavaScript scope

Yi Jiang

00:54

I'm having no success at all trying to bring a variable out of a JavaScript function scope... ah well

George Marian

Climber found reading map after 1,000ft fall

2

That's such a terrible headline.

Moshe

I'm back. What's up?

@George Marian @GeorgeMarian (obligatory star on a non-onebox link)

George Marian

heh

Rebecca Chernoff

You star any links that aren't oneboxes? No wonder you whine about not having enough stars.

Moshe

@Rebecca Chernoff @RebeccaChernoff No, I usually notice a lot of links in the starred list. I only whined once, and then conceded afterwards.

Pekka

01:03

@Rebecca Chernoff @RebeccaChernoff The obvious solution is to introduce BBC oneboxing. Duh

Yi Jiang

@Pekka @Pekka Definitely. +1 for that!

Moshe

@Pekka @Pekka And GitHub and ...

But seriously, that was an interesitng article.

Yi Jiang

Help me test the update to the elections page: se.awio.com/election-dev.html

Dan Grossman

Anything in particular I should be looking at as possibly broken? Seems to work

-2

Q: Why work in a office when you can have the best collaborators here on Stack Overflow?

Not a real question, just a thank you :D

work

Trufa

@YiJiang I'm getting this error

An image is not loadind

Yi Jiang

01:12

@Trufa @Trufa Yeah, that's not really an error

Trufa

thok

ok!

I'll try it out

then

Yi Jiang

Will add something to hide that before the site is choosen

Trufa

@Yi Jiang @YiJiang Do you want something in particular tested?

Yi Jiang

Not really, no - mainly I want to see if the thing a) loads everything successfully and b) removes ineligible election candidates for the election phase and withdrawn candidates for the primary phase

Trufa

@Yi Jiang @YiJiang Works fine for me

I'm using chrome, latest version

(who knows which is by now probably a new one) :)

@Yi Jiang @YiJiang BTW congratulations on this, it looks fantastical and is VERY helpful

Dan Grossman

01:28

> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shing%C5%8D,_Aomori#Tourist_attractions

Rebecca Chernoff

01:39

Hrm. Trying to fit 3 behaviors into 2 actions is kind of a pain.

Yi Jiang

Right, I think I can push out the changes for the elections stats page

Rebecca Chernoff

I want to be able to click to indicate yes/no/maybe, but there's only left/right clicking. Can't decide how I want this to act.

Yi Jiang

@Rebecca Chernoff @RebeccaChernoff Maybe just one button to toggle through all three states?

Rebecca Chernoff

Well, it's going to be click+drag to select a range, not just click. So it isn't really something you want to have to do more than once.

Everything starts in "maybe". LMB goes to "yes". RMB goes to "no". But then if you're in "yes"/"no", LMB switches and RMB goes to "maybe"? Is that confusing?

Yi Jiang

@Rebecca Chernoff @RebeccaChernoff Quite. Another idea - a separate set of buttons, say, on top of where you drag - clicking on one will set the state of the range you select.

Rebecca Chernoff

01:51

Yeah, that feels like cheating somehow.

Trufa

@RebeccaChernoff Hi rebbeca, sorry to bother
one questions
my notifications in SO are all over the place
sometimes I get them
sometimes not
it is very strange
my question is should I email the team?
or post on meta?

Rebecca Chernoff

No problems with notifications here. Meta.

Trufa

Yes but "lighter"

@Rebecca Chernoff @RebeccaChernoff I just have the envelope lighted randomly

every now and then

for no aparent reason

but I get notifications

Rebecca Chernoff

Several notifications have been moved to the Gen-U-Wine inbox. But the envelope is not random.

Trufa

in SO

lately

no, of course

it shouldn't be

but it sure seems so (because of the bu or whatever)

Tim Stone

01:57

People started talking :o

Rebecca Chernoff

You probably have a favorite notification. Or a revision.

Trufa

*bug

yes but it's not showing up

on the click

Rebecca Chernoff

I doubt it is a bug, but post specific details on MSO.

Trufa

ok, I will

Yi Jiang

@Tim Stone @TimStone :O indeed

Tim Stone

01:58

Craziness :P

Trufa

@RebeccaChernoff thanks!!

Rebecca Chernoff

Bah. State buttons at the top feels so dirty. ):

Yi Jiang

@Tim Stone @TimStone I've updated the elections page

Tim Stone

Say wha?

Yi Jiang

@Rebecca Chernoff @RebeccaChernoff Why?

Tim Stone

01:59

@Yi Jiang @YiJiang checks

Nifty

Rebecca Chernoff

I dunno. It just does.

Dan Grossman

►

Yi Jiang

I don't know why, but I keep getting 'There was an error processing your vote' when voting, even though if I go back I can see that the vote has registered

Dan Grossman

Had that happen a few times this week

Rebecca Chernoff

Do you have Firebug enabled?

I feel like I recall something about that.

Yi Jiang

02:13

Yes, but how would that affect the voting system?

Dan Grossman

I use Chrome, so no

Rebecca Chernoff

I dunno, I just feel like I remember seeing something on MSO about voting and Firebug.

Moshe

02:41

Big news:

Submitting my game now. iPad update will come later.

Yay!

Submitted!

Rebecca Chernoff

Didn't you do that days ago?

I mean, obviously not, but... shrugs

Tim Stone

Heh :P

Kragen

Gah, its way too warm - I can't think and I know its not too early

I need a break! (and some air conditioning)

Dan Grossman

02:57

Warm? I'm dodging icicles that want to impale me while trying not to fall off the sidewalks which are solid sheets of ice

I suddenly remembered there was blueberry pie in my dreams last night, so I went and bought one

Moshe

03:23

@Rebecca I was testing. I just submitted tonight.

Dan Grossman

04:01

Yi Jiang

You know what's a better way of looking for posts to edit than looking through the /review pages? Look at the famous-questions badge question list. Most of them have at least one or two 'thanks' and 'i have this question can you help me' there

0

Q: Is it possible to get instant messenger assistance?

Trying to remedy some issues in jquery, and would love if i could borrow an expert for like 15 minutes or so over yahoo messenger to help me iron out these issues. Asking questions via the regular stackoverflow protocol has left me with more questions than answers, especially when i have to wait...

jquery

/facepalm

Moshe

04:31

@Dan Grossman @DanGrossman </hotcocoa>

Moshe

04:54

@Yi Jiang: http://i.imgur.com/TTDKd.png

@YiJiang How do you do inner shadows in CSS3?

Yi Jiang

@Moshe @Moshe box-shadow: inset ...

Moshe

I didn't know that that existed. Really cool!

Yi Jiang

05:08

0

A: pyso.py - Python Stack Overflow library

Hello My name is tessy,i saw your profile today and became interested in you,i will also like to know you the more,and i want you to send an email to my email address so i can give you my picture for you to know whom i am.Here is my email address([email protected]) I believe we can move...

WTF?

Moshe

05:20

@Yi Jiang @YiJiang Agreed.

Tim Stone

05:39

@Yi Jiang @YiJiang lmao

Moshe

Just open sourced a small app on GitHub. Yay for Open Source.

Moshe

05:57

And now a blog post too... Oy, I'm on a roll.

Is it just me, or am I really getting more and more "tech-support" requests when I'm on vacation from school?

Hey, this guy is anti-jQuery!

0

Q: How to change the src of a img with its alt?

Is there way to change the image src with its alt on load of the image? I want the script to automatically change the image's source to the image's alt. Before <img src="" alt="exe"> After <img src="exe" alt"exe">

javascript html image

Look at the comment on the answer.

Moshe

07:01

@Jin - Just saw the live Apple.SE site redesign. Wow. Really really nice.

Jin

07:38

@Moshe thanks. I'm still fixing css bugs for it now :)

Michael Mrozek

And I found more! YAY!

Jin

@MichaelMrozek replied

@MichaelMrozek we did use the hack fix for most of our buttons. but not all. i feel at this point it's not worth fixing all of them since the patch is coming out soon.

Yi Jiang

08:01

That's odd, I'm getting 404 not found with rads.stackoverflow.com/ossads/all

balpha

08:29

yeah, there's a strange redirect to ads/reach_devs2.png going on

which doesn't exist

Yi Jiang

08:48

1

A: omegle.com title change imitation

in javascript change document.title every half second change the icon? i have never try .i will try it justnow!wait! i have try it ! but i can't achieve it!

wtf is this person trying to say? And how can this unintelligible question be voted up and accepted?

balpha

> and thought i'd accept your answer as you kinda need it

there's your answer :)

pure altruism

Yi Jiang

flagging as low quality...

badp

09:11

Kragen

@badp huh?

badp

09:45

@Kragen @Kragen _ you... will... upvote... me... _

Kragen

cant.... look.... away.....

Yi Jiang

10:14

@badp @badp my eyes!!!

Kragen

I'm trying to work out if I'm going to be able to use the icons from this page: msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms175913.aspx

I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but they're so pretty! :-(

badp

Dan Grossman

10:41

iconfinder.com

badp

Egypt shuts down Al Jazeera bureau

Kragen

12:21

@DanGrossman Thanks - that site looks like just what I need.

Moshe

12:43

//rolls over
function sleep(){
for(hours in day){
continue;
}
}

user153011

Hi! :)

Moshe

13:19

Hi

while(tooTiredToWriteCode){ sleep(); }

user153011

if (tooWiredToWriteCode) { // sleep and wakeup time are specified in seconds sleep(1); wakeup(1); if still (tooWiredToWriteCode) { repeat 2; // repeats the outer if block } }

Moshe

Heh.

@RebeccaChernoffyour script is missing some instructions. (my blog post about getting the script running in safari) rchern.github.com/StackExchangeScripts

user153011

<?php function tooTired() { if (tooTiredToWriteCode) { sleep(1); wakeup(1); } else { letsCode(1); rest(1); } tooTired(); } ?>

Moshe

@Nyszika7H it's tooTired, not tooWired

Yi Jiang

@Moshe @Moshe So it works on Safari?

None of us has tested it there

user153011

13:27

@Moshe @Moshe oh, that makes much more sence :)

user153011

*sense

user153011

reproduced fakepath with Chrome 10.0.648.6 dev

Yi Jiang

@user153011 @Nyuszika7H status-bydesign

2

Search for 'fakepath' on MSO

user153011

I know, I've already found that :)

user153011

also the drive letter is always C:

user153011

13:32

user153011

However, the file uploads fine… as you can see above. :)

Moshe

@YiJiang - I've gotten the scripts running in safari. I havent tested all of it's functionality, but it seems to work.

http://mosheberman.com/wordpress/?p=284

user153011

13:56

@YiJiang SEChatModifications breaks chat. Could you take a look at it?

user153011

> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'run' of undefined (jquery.livequery.js:182)

Yi Jiang

Try reloading, apparently Livequery failed to load

Nothing I can do from my end here

user153011

Yes, that's the problem.

user153011

Now I can't even disable or uninstall it! :( Blank Canvas Script Handler's settings page won't show up.

Yi Jiang

@user153011 @Nyuszika7H Hmmm?

user153011

14:08

@Yi Jiang @YiJiang BCSH is something like Greasemonkey… but for Chrome.

Erick Robertson

15:19

Nobody's here on a sunday, huh?

Moshe

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Usually not, apparently.

I'm here, what's up?

Erick Robertson

Not a lot, just trying to get some work done and enjoy my Sunday

Moshe

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Same here.

Erick Robertson

what do you do for work?

Moshe

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson I work for myself. I'm actually a student, I do iOS apps as a hobby.

Erick Robertson

15:23

have you sold any?

Moshe

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Most of my apps have been targeted towards a niche market. I just submitted a game last night, though. To answer your question, I've had a few thousand downloads.

user153011

Hi again! :)

Moshe

Hi

Erick Robertson

@Moshe @Moshe Why didn't you use the reply? :)

@user153011 @Nyuszika7H Hi

Moshe

No need to.

Actually, most people only do when there are multiple conversations go on at once.

@Erick - Do you have any iOS devices?

Erick Robertson

15:27

I have an iPhone 3GS and an iPad

I'm looking forward to getting the iPhone 5 this summer

I was working on two different games in Xcode, but it was too many projects at once. Really, I just wanted some experience in Objective-C and iOS dev.

Moshe

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Nice.

If you want, feel free to check my apps out on the app store. Search "Moshe Berman"

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson What languages do you use regularly? (For work or whatever.) Also, I get the point of too many projects... haha.

Erick Robertson

@Moshe: :483181 Most of my apps have been targeted towards a niche market. I just submitted a game last night, though. To answer your question, I've had a few thousand downloads.

@Moshe "Niche market" = "Jewish People"?

My day job takes Java, and my night job takes PHP.

Do you live in Israel?

Moshe

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Yes, exactly.

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Nope, I'm Jewish though. My game is a remake of the Palm/Calculator classic "Dope Wars"

Erick Robertson

Oh yes, you were talking about this the other day.

Moshe

Yep

So I submitted the iPhone version last night.

Erick Robertson

15:35

Well, if you want any advice about making the market more realistic, I can help you with that.

My day job is financial market analysis software

Moshe

I'm open to advice.

Erick Robertson

What are you using to model drug prices?

Moshe

Well I modeled it after the original, random numbers in ranges.

And it's sushi, not drugs. :-)

Erick Robertson

That can be significantly improved.

Oh, Sushi, huh? Interesting.

Moshe

Okay. How so?

Yea, I figured Apple is not interested in more "not-child-friendly" material in the App Store.

Erick Robertson

15:37

Are you doing the same day-by-day gameplay of dope wars?

user153011

Hmm.

Moshe

Yes, gameplay is identical, the names have been changed. The "Cops chasing you" event has been modified slightly, but that it.

Instead of cops, it's overdedicated fans. And the change there is that there is no gun, you fend them off with half of your money.

Erick Robertson

How much are you charging for it?

user153011

I'm there too :/

Moshe

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson $1.99

@user153011 @Nyuszika7H You mean "I'm here too"?

Erick Robertson

15:40

Do you have good screenshots?

user153011

@Moshe @Moshe yes

Erick Robertson

@user153011 @Nyuszika7H Where are you from?

Moshe

Nope, not yet. I have to redo those slightly.

user153011

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Hungary

Moshe

I am planning an update to make it iPad compatible.

Erick Robertson

15:41

@Moshe @Moshe I don't know that I would pay $1.99 for a game like that without screenshots.

Yeah, you were talking about the iPad interface last time I was in here.

Moshe

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Oh, there are screenshots, but they're not dressed up in the iPhone artwork and stuff.

Erick Robertson

@user153011 @Nyuszika7H Never heard of it.

Moshe

Perhaps I'll work on that today.

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Where are you from?

user153011

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson It's a country …

2

Erick Robertson

@Moshe @Moshe If you want to make sales, you will need the best screenshots. Actual screenshots of in-game screens that make the game look really cool.

Moshe

15:43

There's some form I officially have to print to use the iPhone graphics in my artwork. Once I print that and put it in the mail, I'll rework the art.

Erick Robertson

@Moshe @Moshe Chicago, IL, US 60646

Moshe

@ErickRobertson - Do you want to see the screenshots I submitted?

Erick Robertson

@Moshe @Moshe Sure

@user153011 @Nyuszika7H Near Austria, right?

user153011

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson yep

Erick Robertson

My wife's family is from the Czech Republic

Of course, when they lived there, it was still Czechoslovakia

user153011

15:44

Hungary

Hungary (; ), officially the Republic of Hungary (Hungarian:Magyar Köztársaság , literally "Hungarian Republic"), is a landlocked country in Central Europe. It is situated in the Pannonian Basin and it is bordered by Slovakia to the north, Ukraine and Romania to the east, Serbia and Croatia to the south, Slovenia to the southwest and Austria to the west. The capital and largest city is Budapest. Hungary is a member of the European Union, NATO, the OECD, the Visegrád Group, and is a Schengen state. On 1 January 2011, Hungary became the seat for the Presidency of the Council of the Europe...

Moshe

The main menu

Erick Robertson

oh, nice.

Moshe

Erick Robertson

you should offer the choice of switching the whole game over to Japanese

Moshe

An in game screenshot.

Erick Robertson

15:46

I would be glad to provide you with mediocre translations :)

Moshe

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson If I knew Japanese! (My friend does... i wonder if he wants to help.)

Erick Robertson

many of the buttons, you can just use the english words in Katakana.

Moshe

Well my friend taught himself the language to the point where he can watch anime online.

Interesting.

Erick Robertson

@Moshe @Moshe LOL, that's what I did!

Moshe

Hah

Erick Robertson

15:47

But then I went over there and played trumpet for a baseball cheerleading group inside the stadium.

Moshe

I am indeed looking for translators. What other languages do you know?

Erick Robertson

I think I might be a kind of a legend in certain parts of Koushien stadium.

Moshe

Oh, trumpet, nice!

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Haha.

Erick Robertson

I took French in high school, but I never played video games in french or anything, so I would be a bad choice there.

I've played Hot Shots Golf, Pro Yakyu Spirits (Japanese baseball game from the year I cheered - so all the right players and everything), and Final Fantasy XIII in Japanese

Moshe

We have a French speaker here already.

Erick Robertson

15:49

I really couldn't follow FF13 much, but I could translate all the buttons and understand the game mechanics

Moshe

I have to see how the initial sales go.

Erick Robertson

When it came out in English 4 months later, I just started over :P

Moshe

Haha

Erick Robertson

Do you have GameCenter integration?

Moshe

@Pekka - Hi

Pekka

15:50

Hi @Moshe

Moshe

@ErickRobertson - Yep.

Pekka

Is "Nippon" the title of your app?

Moshe

12 Achievements and counting and a global leaderboard.

@Pekka - Yes

Oops, should've nukes those. Eh, it's all good.

Pekka

@Moshe @Moshe nice

Moshe

@Pekka - Would you be interested in helping to translate the app into German?

@Pekka @Pekka Thanks.

Erick Robertson

15:52

you going to pay us? :)

Moshe

I'd do it myself, but our German proposal on A51 is stalled right now.

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson Translators get a promo code, just like the beta testers.

Pekka

in general yes, but not right now (loads and loads of work)

Erick Robertson

oh, for a free copy

Moshe

@Erick Robertson @ErickRobertson yep

Erick Robertson

@Moshe do you have time and/or space to take on another project?

Moshe

15:53

@Pekka @Pekka I hear ya. If you want to, please email me: yetanotheriphoneapp GMAIL

brb

Pekka

ok!

Moshe

back

@ErickRobertson - odds are not, but I have a bad habit of doing so, so what's up?

@Pekka @Pekka I'm asking for an email because I know you plan to go offline in a bit, but I assume you'll still have some email access, so if you can email me now-ish, even though neither of us are up to translating the app yet, that would be nice.

Thank you.!

user153011

Searching on DuckDuckGo.

user153011

joutandt

user153011

15:58

> Did you mean joutant?

user153011

joutant

user153011

> Did you mean toutant?

Moshe

Yea, that's a weird captcha

Sideways numbers? Never seen that before.

user153011

Neither me. Anyways, it's 18 15 23 44 :P

Moshe

In a captcha? Sideways? What is this anti-spam-bot-evil that is overtaking our world?

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