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@iequidoo iequidoo commented Dec 2, 2025

Many clients don't send it currently, so it is unlikely that servers depend on it: https://mastodon.social/@cks/114690055923939576.

For "implicit TLS", do not turn it off yet, it will serve as a fallback in case of rare server that needs it. If the server only supports STARTTLS and requires SNI then it is really weird, likely should not happen.

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Many clients don't send it currently, so it is unlikely that servers depend on it: https://mastodon.social/@cks/114690055923939576. For "implicit TLS", do not turn it off yet, it will serve as a fallback in case of rare server that needs it. If the server only supports STARTTLS and requires SNI then it is really weird, likely should not happen.
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iequidoo commented Dec 2, 2025

https://github.com/chatmail/core/actions/runs/19871098656/job/56947141149?pr=7556 failed:

9.53 [events-ac2] WARNING src/scheduler.rs:796: send_smtp_messages failed: Failed to send message: Permanent SMTP error: permanent: Error: (SMTPSenderRefused) (451, b'4.7.1 Service unavailable - try again later', 'ci-873d4j@ci-chatmail.testrun.org'). 

But this isn't related to the change, STARTTLS isn't used for connection.

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