Is it possible to simplify the circuit by removing the logical NOTs while maintaining the identical output response to the input signal?
- \$\begingroup\$ Invert the generator and use a BJT inverter at output. \$\endgroup\$Antonio51– Antonio512025-10-03 09:34:06 +00:00Commented Oct 3 at 9:34
- \$\begingroup\$ The gates will introduce delays so no, it can never be identical. \$\endgroup\$Andy aka– Andy aka2025-10-03 10:28:26 +00:00Commented Oct 3 at 10:28
- 1\$\begingroup\$ @Andyaka but compared to the delay introduced by the NE555, these should be pretty much zero. The question is whether you want the edge-sharpening that U2 brings or not, to me \$\endgroup\$Marcus Müller– Marcus Müller2025-10-03 11:22:36 +00:00Commented Oct 3 at 11:22
- 1\$\begingroup\$ Arseniy, it's impossible to know whether a circuit can be simplified if it is not known what the circuit is used for. "delay circuit" doesn't tell us anything – and in fact, it's likely you want something specific, considering there's a otherwise "useless" R2 at the output of your U2. So, describe what purpose this delay circuit serves – what does get connected to its output, what is connected to its input, why is the supply voltage what it is (a bit on the low side for the deprecated NE555), etc. \$\endgroup\$Marcus Müller– Marcus Müller2025-10-03 11:31:28 +00:00Commented Oct 3 at 11:31
- 1\$\begingroup\$ @MarcusMüller the word used was identical. Quite often in engineering you have to be a true pedant. \$\endgroup\$Andy aka– Andy aka2025-10-03 12:50:54 +00:00Commented Oct 3 at 12:50
3 Answers
- \$\begingroup\$ Thank you very much! \$\endgroup\$Arseniy– Arseniy2025-10-04 10:04:37 +00:00Commented Oct 4 at 10:04
It depends on your desired trigger signal characteristics, such as high going, low going, do you want it level triggered or edge triggered, pulse amplitude and duration, and maybe more. Then there’s the output, do you want it to go high or low during the on period, what do you need it to drive, etc.
Typically for a 555 monostable delay the output will be held near ground and on a low going pulse on the trigger pin going below Vcc/3 the output will go high, ~ Vcc-1.7V, for the time determined by the timing resistor and cap. When the cap charges up to 2/3 Vcc the circuit will reset and the output will return to its liw state until triggered again.
The output high and low currents available are not necessarily equal, and this depends on the exact type of 555, ie. CMOS, bipolar, etc. The datasheets are your friends, make sure you have the one that matches the 555 version you are using.
From the red input to the blue output, the net effect of the overall circuit is delayed inversion. In its most simple form, all of the active components can be replaced with one diode and one inverting device such as a transistor or 1/6 of a CMOS hex inverter. A real-world solution probably needs more than that, such as three inverters in series, but we just don't know . . .
If you want to stick with a 555, then Yes, both logic inverters can be replaced with one diode. The 555 is acting as an inverter with hysteresis.
I had this answer almost ready to post and was called away, so Carl beat me to it. I started with his version, then opted for this version wherein the capacitor discharge timing is not affected by the input source output impedance or low output voltage value. His 555 Threshold input connection is interesting.
- \$\begingroup\$ AnalogKid - Hi, Thanks for posting an answer. Please remember that answers should not ask (non-rhetorical) questions - those should be posted in comments e.g. questions to the OP usually go in comments under the question (so I moved them). That makes sure the OP seems them. It also makes sure other site members see them and they don't waste their time duplicating the same questions. More info about asking for clarification using comments: "How do comments work?" & here. TY (Let me know if you've got questions on this.) \$\endgroup\$2025-10-03 14:05:51 +00:00Commented Oct 3 at 14:05


